So Genn Greymane stepped down to put Tess in charge. Tess. The princess who literally became a rogue to AVOID her royal responsibilities and who has spontaneously grown Horde sympathies because apparently the writers thought she was obscure enough that people would forget she hates the Horde as much as her father. All because… reasons.
They’re doing the same with Shandris, another character who also spontaneously stopped hating the Horde just in time to make her the new racial leader. Again because… reasons.
Meanwhile it appears that “compromise” to put Calia on a council instead of just making her queen after the widespread rejection she was initially received with, was made in bad faith. Because it seems like she can mobilize Forsaken forces without any indication she ran it by any other council member than Lilian who might as well be labeled as Calia’s hunter pet now for all the difference it makes. So I guess Calia IS queen now in all but title.
And they’re going through this narrative where they’re telling us it’s was wrong for us to fight for a victimized people and those who did so need to leave.
“Hurr durr you just don’t like them because they’re women.”
No! Shut your disingenuous mouth! If anything I’m angry that they’re removing all the female characters with agency and replacing them with dainty, morally pure, bootlickers like Calia.
Throughout Dragonflight they’ve been taking the laziest way out of every moral question. Every character with any kind of baggage is being shoved out of relevance. While villians are being offered redemption despite showing no indication that they even want that redemption.
Remember how in Warcraft 3 when the Orcs were redeeming themselves they did it on their own with no one asking for it, expecting it or believing it until they shed so much blood for it that no reasonable person could deny it anymore? What happened to that?
While I agree that the faction war has outstayed its welcome… Yeah this isn’t how you bring an end to it. People don’t just forgive and move on as the new leaders seemingly are doing. Maybe they will include it in books, but it would have been nice to see them grappling with wanting what’s best for their people but also still hurt by what was done to them. I can’t say I’m surprised though.
You’re upset that the Worgen and Forsaken finally have adult leadership and would rather co-exist than continue killing each other. I get enough of that mindset in real life - groups that keep fighting when it makes more sense to work together. The whole story of WoW is one of rising above faction conflict to cooperate in the face of common threats. Now if we could only do this in RL!
Most of the race/faction leaders have worked together on multiple occasions to protect the entire planet. To your specific examples, Tess, Shandris, and Calia were all members of cross-faction groups in Legion.
Making them still mindlessly hate each other at this point would be worse writing than anything they’ve put in game.
Ask them to have the average citizen continue to be xenophobic and make a plot thread out of that if you want, but complaining that the leaders get along is silly.
Also this is entirely made up. Just because they didn’t show a cutscene of the Desolate Council having a cabinet meeting doesn’t mean that she’s doing this without their approval.
Also also, what are you talking about? Orcs were redeemed in WCIII because Thrall showed up and wasn’t a warmongering psycho. There was no other buildup to that.
Welcome to Dragonflight, the people who make this stuff truly need to get sent back to first grade writing class to learn how to make an interesting story. BUT, it’s not just Blizz’s fault, we have to remember the fanbase has devolved into people like this:
It wasn’t great writting, but thet did make it clear that trust was at best a work in progress. I got the impression there was some new hope for peace and prosperity between them. That is about it though. You are being wildly dramatic and making some outrageous assumptions.
Except this isn’t true. I don’t know where people keep getting this from when by the time Legion rolled around, she was more interested in making sure her duties didn’t take her too far from her people and then in BfA she wanted to become a Worgen to better understand the plight of her people.
How is it spontaneous when she worked with them in the Uncrowned?
So you’re just making assumptions based on nothing?
Lillian was shoved out of existence? Shandris? Kalec? Ebyssian? The list goes on.
So everyone must do everything on their own and screw the help of anyone else that offers and the long term diplomacy that might go with it, because “GRUNT GRUNT ME ORC”?
I gave up on WoW writing a while ago. But it does piss me off that they force you to complete story lines to gain access to game features like daily quests.
Take the worst written story and force people to do them, bleh.
You are putting alot of faith in them that they are attempting to create a narrative that makes sense.
It is sadly much more likely that they just wanted whatever convinent female to be the leader of every faction they can make them. The current people at Blizzard are not that deep.
To the 'Rawr me smash, you die!" “Garrosh did nothing wrong” “But muh faction war!” crowd, anything less than instant insults and kill on sight behavior between two characters of opposite factions is carebear, kumbaya, peace and love, 'wah! put the war back in WARcraft!" >_> I say if you want faction war, Classic is that way.
Calia being ‘in charge’ of the Forsaken over Lillian, is exactly like us fighting Zovaal (The Jailer) vs. us fighting N’Zoth. You go through the trenches with one, it means more when you come out the other side.
The other one is a talking head who had next to no player interaction, and means absolutely ZIP to the storyline/player character as a whole.
Plus they seem to really be trying to backpedal for nuking Arthas, when he was one of the more popular ‘villains’ in WoW history. 'We’ll give them his relative! It’ll be fine!" Naw. Not even close.
This Kumbaya mentality that’s developed as of late is a dumpster fire plotline that’s not going to last long, so I hope. It would do with a bit better writing, for sure. Coupled with making Bel’ameth a neutral hub, but not doing the same for Gilneas? Yeah, no. There’s a lot they fumbled in this latter part of the Xpac, and they need to stop dropping the ball.
I’m glad to see they are moving our important lore characters out of places they are needed. It will help a lot when the raid where we kill them for their void tainted shoes comes out. Caring about wow lore beyond that is a rough one, even classic wow lore didn’t really do it for me after every major antagonist in wc3 was slowly relegated to loot pinata’s because gameplay demanded it, in particular kael’thas, vashj, kel’ thuzad, and anub arak got gutted lorewise. I just see the move as blizzard either trying to use new characters to tell a new story which can work, but probably won’t or to make old characters disposable which at the very least as shown by Garrosh’s 3 seconds of shadowlands overshadowing most everything else a chance for something memorable and maybe memeable at the very least.
After all we haven’t had a tyrande, malfurion, or greymane raid fight yet and they’ve slowly be leaking world leader boss fights since bfa.
