At this point, I am so confident that tokens will be a huge failure that I say bring them on.
Players like Darolant are the target market for token sellers. Once he’s bought enough tokens to pay for a year’s sub and recouped his costs by increasing the costs of elemental sharpening stones (bought by the same suckers who sold him a token), he won’t have a need for tokens and their value will drop dramatically.
For the token seller, it’s a viscous cycle with diminishing returns.
I agree tokens are potentially better for the economy than the illicit gold sellers.
Example 1: My account in Wrath was hacked. I lost a guild bank loaded with decks and cards for the insane title grind. Once I got in the majority of my items were still on AH. I had my guild help buy them all. On account restore all my original items and gold was restored. The number of items I posesed had nearly doubled. I completed my title, paid back my guild, and sold the excess decks. The hack and restore injected a ton of gold into the economy by duplicating my items and gold.
Example 2: With wow token Farmer (A) grinds gold, let’s assume he is a mage and making 100g an hour, and posting herbs/consumables/gear to AH. He is swimming in gold and buys a token for game time from Raidlogger (B) who spent $20 on token and purchased farmer (A)'s gold. Raidlogger (B) then spends that gold on repairs (100%) removal from the economy, consumables Farmer (A) farmed (10% AH cut) and a shiny new mount (100%) removal and gearing up a twink from AH (10% AH cut).
Example 2 removes gold from the economy in exchange for farmer(A) getting free game time.
Surley we all want more of example 2 than example 1 which simply promotes rampant inflation.
TLDR: WoW Tokens do not generate gold, they remove it and consequetly have a benefit of slowing inflation.
Adding to this with Raid logger is content to buy gold so is no longer farming gold himself so not killing mobs outside raid which is how gold is generated in the wow economy in the first place. So another “gold sink” as less gold is produced in the game world.
Nothing. They already do this.
No…tokens weren’t in original vanilla wow…you want tokens…go to retail. Stop putting your wants and needs onto the community
Tokens were not availble, and what we had instead was dead bodies spelling out gold selling dot com on the floor of major cities. Gold sellers hacking accounts, leading to duplication of gold and items through restoration processes.
I’d much prefer a token that takes gold out of the economy by trading a farmers game time for another players and also when that traded gold is subjected to AH cuts as it flows back to the farmer.
Once you can buy gold through official channels do you think that would lead to more gold buying? That’s most likely what would happen.
Also, everybody isn’t you. If everyone were using the same tactics you use to make gold they wouldn’t work. You make money because you exploit the ignorance/lack of concern of other players. Way more people would buy tokens than are playing the AH. Feel free to champion the token cause if you want, but don’t sit here and act like it wouldn’t affect the game more than the unauthorized gold selling that’s currently happening.
#nochanges
Explain, WoW is capitalism in a micro economics form. Hell in Vanilla a 4 year economics prof bought all his students accounts, gave them 10 gold each on different servers and had them do a study on wow economics. The average gold after a month was over 4000 gold per student. They were not able to level the character past level 1 and had to make their money by using the economic system. One guy danced on mail boxes for his gold.
In my case I found some people who farm elemental earth regularly, spoke with them and made an arrangement to cut out the middle man(AH cut) and sell them to me at a fixed rate. We discuss this rate every couple weeks if there has been a change in the going rate. I buy the dense stone from a guy farming his TF mats on a miner in guild. And I sell the stones at high demand times, sometimes I will reset the market if it gets low enough or there are only a few stones posted(from 9 to 14 gold each). This is how capitalism works, I also do it on a handful of other things(Dark Iron Plate gear, Lionheart helm, free action pots). You look for market soft spots and take advantage of them. Like right now I am saving up elemental water(for Naxx), elemental earth(AQ40), Purple Lotus and Firebloom(ZG oils) and a few other items to take advantage of the market shift when new stuff goes live.
It would effect the game for the better, there would more materials available for farm since a large majority is farmed by gold farmer bots as they would disappear. Hell I bet someone could get rank 10 by farming bots in Feralis on my server.
do you know what else wasn’t in original vanilla? 
The Standard Game!
LOL #nochanges, its dead…things not brought from vanilla ability to bot through macros, addons, etc. This movement has lost it’s water already, it is basically a bowel movement now.
I like this guy. he is like pepperidge farms, he remembers. He is wrong though, tokens are not subject to AH fees but the rest of it will lead to more gold being taken out of the market. This will likely cause deflation as the volume of gold is reduced in the market as there are less farmers.
I know wow tokens arent subject to AH cut. Everything you buy on AH with the gold is though, and as you are no longer farming mobs for your gold its win win on deflation potential.
If people do not have time to play classic wow, they should be playing a different game and not ruining the economy for those that enjoy classic for what it is. Back in the day i had small children so I could only game when they were asleep and I wasnt exhausted lol. I was fine with it because I enjoyed earning things. There are other games for people that want immediate gratification.
Tokens = Quitting immediately.
no. micro-transactions are exclusively a bad thing. this is a black and white issue.
So let people pay to get gold instead of farming it themselves, I’d rather not. Yes I know it doesn’t “generate gold” but if all i need to do for a few hundred gold is spend 20 bucks, thats easier than farming for hours or playing the AH… Bad idea, will create a spiral of MTX, but hey what do i know i only played the EQ TLPs
No, tens of thousands of players in wow classic are buying gold. If you don’t think this is true, you clearly do not participate on GDKP runs or you are ignoring the reality that gold purchases are 100% driving the GDKP phenomenon.