Did an AV today, and yeah I know what I am about to hear about AV being only a PVE race but you’re wrong. This AV was a real PVP battle. We were pushed back to our base, and battled it out at the bridge like any valiant warrior should. The battle raged on for over an hour and then we pushed them back slowly until their lines broke. Some of the allies and some of the horde had scrounged up scraps to summon the ice lord and the forest lord; they were both summoned, bat riders, and everything!
Eventually their lines broke again, and we pushed into the Horde base, capturing the RH and the towers, and as the towers burned war masters were pulled… The horde thought to do the same, I ported back to our base and wiped their little incursion and the allies won the day.
Why cant long 2 hours games be rewarded for the glory that they can be?
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Ahhh…
The good old days. Used to be, that was the daily. Then folk cried about it taking too long, and the race was on.
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I once had a 15 minute game that got me like 8k honour cause I recalled and holy nova spam wiped the enemy at Vann. I took a screenshot of the win board too, don’t judge! Most games I just die on repeat trying to stall out the DB rush, but that one game, so good.
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Had a game today tho that did the vanilla thing, it was truly awesome., I played that while listening to a Warhammer 40 novel. Excellent combo, imo the best
Yea, I’m not a fan of the multi-hour BGs… I rather see the game be 10-20 minutes and that’s it.
Nothing like a spicy AV turtle to get the juices flowing.
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Just cap SF GY and make a turtle, watch the people rage at you for doing so.
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I’d rather have a battleground that never ends and you can join it with no queue and leave when you get bored with no penalty.
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Honestly, man, Classic was designed in a time when people played games for fun, not to chase endless reward grinds. The reward of a 2 hour long AV game is the experience you had… one compelling enough that you came to the forums to share that experience with others.
The worst thing Blizzard ever did for WoW gameplay was turn it into a currency treadmill. It’s no wonder the player base turned Classic 2019 into a mess of boost and GDKP sales. It’s all they’ve been taught over the last 20 years.
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Nah, the race was on when Blizzard introduced Reinforcements
That’s awesome!
I don’t know, it’s a good question. Would think that kind of game would be well worth the time spent in honor.
oh I fully agree, but was thinking that if the long games were actually worth it for more than just my own personal (this rogue doesn’t need gear) enjoyment, then perhaps long games with insane action would become the norm?
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because we have losers who think numbers are more important than laughing and having fun. losers who perpetuate the totality of losergaming
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Vanilla was made by talent that is far more expensive than what modern Blizzard is willing to pay for.
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You could try playing retail then. WSG is capped at 15 mins and AV has 500 reinforcements (last time I played) that is probably a maximum of 20 mins ish.
I know. I prefer retail personally.
AV cast last 20-30 minutes depending on the logjam that usually happens.
PvP is best when people just play it… play to win, not to maximize one thing or another. Sometimes a short game in AV is fun and sometimes a long game is fun. Where it gets crappy is when every game is the same and nobody wants to actually do a thing that might turn the tide for your team because it’s not going to get them the honour they want.
If long games were the best way to be rewarded then we would have exactly the same problem we have now. People get silly when they chase rewards. I promise you, if long games became the best way to earn honour in AV, they would stop being fun 
As backwards as it sounds, if you want PvP to be fun, do this…
- Remove the epic PvP gear.
- Remove the rank requirement on the blue PvP gear.
- Only PvP gear works in Battlegrounds.
Then go. Now anybody who wants to be in a BG will be there because they want to play the game, not because they’re chasing a reward… especially one they just want to use in PvE anyway. Now people can just play in whatever way they want to. Fun will happen.
I know, this is madness.
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Interestingly, the way PvP and gearing works in Retail, you can pretty easily get fully PvP geared with very little effort. The gear is upgradeable, but upgrading doesn’t affect its effectiveness in PvP.
I actually started playing Retail a couple weeks ago, solely to check out how PvP works, and it was incredibly easy to gear up, so for PvP at least, there doesn’t seem to be any PvP benefit to PvPing, other than enjoyment or maybe title or cosmetic chasing.
So pretty much how it works in Retail. I don’t know if this is better or not, but I suppose it is the eventual progression of the game, alt the moment anyway.
AV is one of the reasons I started a couple classic toons. Never got to play it back in the day.