Title. Basically what it says. Why can’t WW have FoF stun?
Of the many things I’m tired of in PvP like not being able to peel effectively, not being effectively lock down people who kite, not having an extra kick, having FoF get cancelled mid-cast, having my target suddenly tele/burst mobility out of FoF, not being able to charge into 1v2s, FoF stun would wrap these issues up quite well.
It would turn so many matchups in our favor. Being able to peel/lockdown fury warriors and UH dks would be amazing, not to mention every other melee in the game. HoF from pallies would be a dead ability. Ranged wouldn’t be able to kite as effectively. We’d have an extra interrupt against casters. We won’t have to eat a stormbolt/hoj/fel nova/(insertothercchere) half the damn time we FoF. Nor would we have to be bothered by someone blinking/rolling/fel rushing/(insertotherburstmobilityhere) out of FoF. And we might even eat someone’s trinket.
A big reason IMO is because it is used less than every 20 seconds with haste / BOK redux meaning if used on cd it would hit DR. I actually prefer the 90% slow. Ring of Peace, tiger’s lust and leg sweep are strong peeling tools. Grapple weapon can do the job also.
I can see the concern from that point of view, but if you’re worried about cc, there are way more degenerate forms of it in PvP. Spam clone, poly, fear, comes to mind. Not to mention Rogue’s cc kit. Warriors having stormbolt every 30 seconds. Ele shamans having lightning lasso every 30 seconds. The list goes on.
Regarding peeling specifically, a lot of those are on a timer whereas FoF stun would be up most of the time. It’s sort of like pre-peeling. I don’t disagree that RoP, TL, and sweep are strong peeling tools. I just think that FoF stun is a stronger peeling tool because of the short CD and it’s ability to “peel” even if your healer is far away.
Come now. You’re being really hopeful there. I’m sure we all know within the first month of 8.2, WW is probably going to get slapped with a nerf because Blizzard detected fun.
I think it’s because they want WW monks to have the worst CC in the game for a melee spec. our 1 min leg sweep and 45 second paralysis is just super weak compared to what rogues, ret pallies, and dhs have
I’d like to see a toggled ability that lets you swap between the slow/parry and the stun. That way, Serenity wouldnt force DR and Leg Sweep wouldnt be victimized if used after FoF.
That’s a reason to put it in, not a reason not to.
I don’t see the relation. One of them is a 20-30 yard range gap closer, the other is 8 yard range channelled melee. Plus how else are we going to force Mages out of taking Shimmer? It’s not like blizzard is going to remove that spell anytime soon.
That sounds interesting, but i feel most ppl would keep it toggled to stun outside of M+.