First of all, I’d like to admit I am a complete bafoon. I crafted a Mail piece instead of Leather for my rdruid and am now a week behind and down 60k gold (yes it was that expensive).
However, after looking at some other posts it seems like this is a common mistake. What is the downside of being able to “uncraft” the item before equipping to at least get the sparks back? You’re still down all the mats/gold you used but at least you can have the sparks to craft a correct piece.
According to multiple blue posts some GMs will refund your sparks as long as you crafted something you cannot actually wear. However, I got the typical AI response when I sent my ticket with all the proof.
Really wish there was an in game system for fixing mis-crafts.
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Because then you would either be exploiting profession knowledge from first crafts or they would need a system in place to take that knowledge away.
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So this was a crafting order I sent in to Public Orders. However, I do see the issue now where players would abuse this regardless. You can have friends refund crafts while you gain knowledge etc.
It is just crappy that some people have had success with getting a refund and others haven’t. I wish there was a better policy on this and that GMs would actually follow it.
Skill exploiting, for one thing.
Maybe for BoP Crafting Orders they can add the warning like when you equip off-type gear
seems reasonable to me.
if the “knowledge” was taken back from the crafter, so what if they get to keep the tip. and if the craftee only gets their spark back and not their mats, that seems like disincentive enough.
I had a “blizz hates me” moment this week.
I crafted a 590 piece for my feet. I spent most of 20k gold in mats and tip. within an hour, I got a 603 foot drop from a world boss. sigh
Are we positive it doesn’t? It absolutely gives you a warning about posting a work order for an inscription book for a profession you don’t have.
So, how exactly are you handling that? Just a -1 knowledge and -10 acquity? What if that sets their acquity into the negatives? Does it forcibly decraft a tool off of them? Does it un-spend their most recently spent knowledge point? What if 2 people refund, now they’ve crafted an item and gotten the first craft from something no longer unlocked? Do they get their concentration back that they spent since you took away their skill and knowledge points? How long can you wait to refund? 2 hours from crafting? 2 hours from picking up the order? Forever?
It’s not exactly an easy thing to unspend that, and it’s still causing potential issues to the crafter who didn’t do anything improper.
I have no idea, when I craft items I read the tooltip, so it hasn’t come up for me.
It’s so people have to think about what they want to craft, and to get them to look before they leap.
If you could reclaim sparks then people would constantly be moving around which pieces they have crafted as they get new gear.
I’m gonna be a jerk and say it’s not really blizzards responsibility to fix a user error.
this seems unreasonable to me. If they ever added an “uncraft” system, punishing the crafter for the patron putting in the wrong order seems unfair.
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I am inclined to agree, both because the crafter didn’t make any mistake or malicious act, and because it would be an absolute nightmare for Blizzard when things dip into the negatives. On the flip side, allowing spark recovery without removing knowledge would be exploitable for skill and knowledge ups, so I don’t expect a system to allow you to salvage like that.
Why should the crafter be penalized for the customer’s mistake in the first place? How is the crafter complicit in the customer’s judgment lapse or immediate buyer’s remorse?
If someone asks me for a blue profession tool, I make it, and they turn around and drop said profession five minutes later, why should I have to lose the knowledge (and potentially acuity) for fulfilling my end of the bargain? I’m not the one who decided after the order was complete that said order was going to be effectively useless. I know you mentioned sparks, but acuity is effectively the same thing considering both reagents must be provided by the customer. The same principle applies; the crafter had nothing to do with the customer no longer wanting the item after it was already crafted.
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One bit of advice I got when I started was, when you’re looking for gear, do everything else you can for the week, and only then craft things.
its enough to want to demand a refund for the expansion and not play for a mythic raider that won’t make the cut because of it
yeah a single kp earlier (from the same pool of first crafts they are going to get anyways and not even part of the weekly cap ones) won’t make a difference
Or a warning “you already have 2 embelished items and my not be able to craft this item” because losing a week and 100k worth of mats and crests is a horrible way to find out you can only wear two embellished items
Seems pretty easy to recraft it without an embellishment, no?