I have been in over 10 different LFR groups and every single time, tons of people die in the first phases and the group falls apart after 3 fails.
I have come to the conclusion that LFR raids cant beat N’zoth
EDIT - Finally! I found a group good enough to defeat that fat slimy slug! It CAN be done in LFR!
Heroic N’zoth is objectively easier because at least then you’re in a group with people that know what they’re doing.
As someone who farms Heroic Nzoth through pugging, I can confirm pugging it on Heroic is easy.
Pugging it on LFR: S̶̡̺̥̖͍̟̮̼̜̃̈́̌̕á̴̛̦̜̥͐͆̇̑̓͊̍ͅń̷̨͔̬͈̒̎̈́͂̒̒̀̀̂͋͜͝ḯ̶͈̩̄̉͗́̓̒́͒̚͘ṯ̷̨͙̞̼͎̤̀̀͐̊̋̈́̒͘͝y̸̨̛̺͙̯̝͚̭̅͛͗̒͌̉̾ ̸̙̟̳̺̩̫̣̪̞̩͛͗̋̈̾̓̑͛̌̑̏̅̄í̶̢̧̧̨̪̠͉̯͚̖̱͈̗ͅs̴̡̰̪̗̗̉̈́̐̑̑̋́͋̽̃̕͜ ̵̧̼̗̟͚̺̦̠̙̔͐̎̽̓͒̋́̓̌̋͝͝͝͝f̶̹̫̳̤͓͇͌̆̆͋o̴̳͙̣͇̥͇͙̼̖͒̓r̷͍͈͍͔̱͇̦̖̙̪̩̈́̈́̈͌̓̚͠f̴̮̗̞̾̀ë̸̛͓͇͖̺͍̺͎͈͇̣͓͖̟̦̙́́̓̒̑̆̀̔̾͌̊̃̚͝i̶̡͕̪͇̰̲̰̯̪̠͠ẗ̵̬̦̹͕̤̈͗̌̑̍̓̌̐́͛͆͝͝
Too many mechanics for the people who are raiding at that level.
The groups are unorganized and people cycle out before they can learn the fight and the tanks specific pathing. Many people do LFR to relax and are not interested in the actual challenge.
I think it comes down to how specific positioning is in that fight and how people are expected to move between the up and down level. Most people who are extreme casuals are likely to respond to prompts (standing in fire) then having to move BEFORE an action takes place.
It requires people do mechanics instead of tunneling the boss
It sucks that I can’t do my only form of end game because two or three idiots can ruin the whole raid.
No amount of explaining or teaching seems to help
As I told one of my LFR groups: “Half of us are bad and the other half are watching Netflix”.
Requires lots of coordination which is a joke in LFR.
THey can I killed him 2nd day lfr N’zoth was out
Just pug it on normal. It’s easy. I know you don’t want the mmo aspect of joining a pug manually, but it’s super easy. Just know the fight, have a decent cloak rank and have 440 ilvl.
Hmm, I’m playing a different WoW than you. In my WoW, I’ve beaten him on ten or eleven different toons through LFR.
My early kills were done near ten pulls each when the content first came out. My more recent kills have all hovered between three and five pulls.
Since I learned what to do during the first raid, I never land in a group that doesn’t know what to do, because I explain it, if someone else doesn’t take the initiative.
YMMV. Every group I’ve been in has failed, granted I gave up
Do you know how to beat him?
6 on this one
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/gilneas/waidmann/pve/raids
3 on this one
4 on this one
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/stormrage/gatlngunn/pve/raids
all lfr
Because people cant do actual mechanics.
That’s all fine and dandy until you deal with the BS drama that pugging raids entails.
Absurd requirements, vindictive raid leaders, groups falling apart after a single wipe, etc.
Every time I attempt to pug a raid I regret it. Hard pass.
No because people want stuff handed to them because they feel entitled . It is no different then the 2 types of work mentality .
Group 1 thinks you should work hard to make more money and group 2 thinks you should make more money to work hard.
Group one tends to keep working hard when they get more money so that they can make more where as group 2 gets more it still isn’t enough and they want more handed to them .
Because it’s a random group of people, many who don’t understand the mechanics or choose to ignore them, with no coordination or planning.
LFRers are usually afk auto attacking. They don’t care about mechanics they want their 440 ilvl gear (which its garbage btw) but dosn’t want to put into work.
Not really.
I was being carried for the mount the other week, and the team could not get N’zoth below 50% HP, despite everyone in the group knowing what they were doing and having done it before.
Nicest people in the world, but N’zoth is hard even if you know what your doing.
you want real advice, do it on Monday or Tuesday. Us mythic professional raiders usually run alts through on those days.
also, git gud dude