Why do you think its a good Idea to make the best possible gear drop from mythic raiding? Why cant we just have a vendor with all the raid and m+ gear and give us tokens from m+ and raiding to purchase our gear. The problem with having it only in raid is that some people (including myself) either don’t have a guild who raids, doesn’t like raiding, or don’t have time to raid. Yet we want to do the top m+ dungeons and with the community as it is won’t take players if they don’t have the top gear for the top m+. I just explained the problem and just gave you a solution to let people play the content they want and still be able to get geared.
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Having a subscription should just get you full 6/6 mythic track gear mailed to your inbox tbh.
Why should players have to put in any effort at all for rewards
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100%. this change for 9/6 myth track is terrible. Make it 3 item level advantage per piece max.
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New system is great for raiders. They just need to replicate the 6/6 and 9/6 drops and vault draws at the appropriate key levels, as well as boost the number of raw crests raiding gives, and then everyone should more-or-less be able to play the content they want to without feeling overly compelled to dip into the other.
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“Why do you award the best gear from the highest difficulty content?“
The world may never know.
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It doesn’t even really matter for the .1%. You’ll be fine getting the gear you get from M+.
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This isn’t a problem, it’s intended. Gear is the carrot they are using to get you to participate in the ‘massively’ part of this Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game.
If you are truly trying to do the top of the top mythic plus keys, then I think you should be expected to do things you don’t want to, including raid, in order to be as powerful as possible.
But let’s be real, you aren’t doing the top keys, you’re probably hardstuck on +17s.
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They’ve finally decided to update raiding loot to keep up with the rest of the game that kept getting buffed/made easier since Legion.
Mythic raiding already had some of the best loot because people like rewards for progressing throught raiding and it didn’t really make sense that the first boss would offer the same level of reward as a boss like Lura.
This is a new compromise which is much better for the average player and keeps mythic raiding rewarding.
So overall it doesn’t change that much, m+ players that disliked raiding having rewards from raiding be better in their content will still be the same because the only option to solve this is an ironwall like pvp which I doubt would happen because it would impact player participation in all contents.
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How else will the tryhards know they are better than everyone else?
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Compromise would be giving raiders 7/6 mythic from last two. This is giving them a major advantage against everyone else in m+. When are we going to admit these are two separate end game activities and shouldnt be affected at all by each other? Just give m+ gear +9 item level advantage when in m+, and raid gear +9 item level advantage when in raid. Then you can balance it around that.
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You don’t do relevant m+ content. Your complaint is invalid.
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Sounds p2w to me, the game should be free to play and also mail you mythic gear.
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Your posts are always invalid.
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The advantage will be there nonetheless with raid trinkets and other right now, the difference is rather than specific gear which you can obtain in the next patch from heroic raiding it is the 2 last bosses loot table which makes more sense when those bosses require much more.
What you’re asking is an ironwall which sure could work but would at the end of the day make the game worse as less people would want to participate in both content.
This is an update for raiding which unless you’re one of the top 1% in M+ will mostly benefit you unless you’d rather not even do heroic raiding at all which is a choice.
Guaranteed this change will lessen the # of m+ players. If the difference was overall 1~ item level sure, but this is 3-4 overall item level difference. It is significantly more impactful than the current season’s trinket disparity.
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does the best gear drop from raids? i seem to member in TWW my healer BIS trinkets dropped from M+, which I hate. So I never got them. Did I whine about it? Not really.
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lol, it won’t. People have reason to aim higher than ever cause of 1% reward.
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That 1% will be out of reach due to it being filled with CE raiders with their extra item levels. Many people will be turned off just on this fact and won’t even attempt and will just unsub and keep it movin. It was fine the way it was in S1 and it was popular. Should just keep it this way.
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Doubtful, they added more rewards to top end M+ already with 2 mounts for the top end and m+ is already rewarding tons of easy gear that it won’t matter much in term of power reward. And if anything any small losses will be more than compensated with people running heroic raids and the new mythic flexible raids/aka world bosses.
OP, it gives incentive to do the content. It’s do, easy content to gear, do harder content to get better gear, do it easier, move to even harder content to gear, and do it easier. It’s the carrot on the stick. Putting it all on a vendor and giving access to it willy nilly is not how gaming has really ever worked that I know of. I’m fine not getting mythic gear. I don’t do that level of difficulty. I came to be ok with it.
The transmog though… that stings 
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