Why Ask for LFR Removal? When...

Why ask for LFR removal if you're okay with better gear being out there that requires you do do absolutely nothing in game?

People are not okay with LFR giving out 355 to "retards" because they're not skilled enough to "earn" 355s.

But most of you are totally okay with people buying tokens with real life cash and using the gold to get 370s.

This is downright depressing. It would cause anyone to reexamine except a pure sycophant who loves his doublethink because he gets to be on the winning team.
If you haven't worked out why we hate it aside from that single reason you haven't read anything people wrote
Because that would require critical thinking.
10/22/2018 07:09 PMPosted by Nippysmilk
If you haven't worked out why we hate it aside from that single reason you haven't read anything people wrote


You have one argument: The people in there are not "good enough" to get gear.

Otherwise you could just not do it and be the happier for it.

You'd have no more reason to dislike LFR than pet battles.
Why answer post when.....
10/22/2018 07:10 PMPosted by Yayayayayaya
Because that would require critical thinking.


Or you know it requires it to be a reasonable equalivent. It is not that therefore the argument is based in emotion from the OP.

You dont buy a 340 BoE and have a chance to open a 395 in the mail that's why you turd.
10/22/2018 07:13 PMPosted by Kulzuk
10/22/2018 07:10 PMPosted by Yayayayayaya
Because that would require critical thinking.


Or you know it requires it to be a reasonable equalivent. It is not that therefore the argument is based in emotion from the OP.

You dont buy a 340 BoE and have a chance to open a 395 in the mail that's why you turd.


No, you buy a 370, which is better 95% of the time.

Besides, the people I'm talking about insist LFR should be removed, not that titanforging should be capped at 370 in LFR.

And if people did say titanforging should be capped at 370, you'd say it was too high!

This is literally doublethink.

No effort for gear, pay real life cash = fine.

LFR = "cheating" because it doesn't require skill.
I agree that they should remove LFR and do more Brawlers Guild content. I think this is a fantastic thread.
10/22/2018 07:13 PMPosted by Kulzuk
10/22/2018 07:10 PMPosted by Yayayayayaya
Because that would require critical thinking.


Or you know it requires it to be a reasonable equalivent. It is not that therefore the argument is based in emotion from the OP.

You dont buy a 340 BoE and have a chance to open a 395 in the mail that's why you turd.
I was agreeing with the OP.

Try Hooked On Phonics before insulting people unnecessarily.
10/22/2018 07:26 PMPosted by Danielrather
I agree that they should remove LFR and do more Brawlers Guild content. I think this is a fantastic thread.


Here is a reasonable critical thinker who opposes LFR which I thought was impossible.

You see, when you say X is bad because Z, but ignore all other instances of Z, that causes what's called cognitive dissonance in someone like you.

Your average WoW player, however... Well... Let's just say that cognitive dissonance requires thought. Thinking even about your own thoughts.
i have noticed alot of people who join normal or heroic pug groups in lfr gear tend to wipe groups and flop mechanics because they haven't learned any raiding skills.
they expect the same thing they expect in lfr faceroll the loot pinata until its over.
people getting 370s/titanfoged gear are getting into pug groups with 350-360+ requirments and it simply shouldnt be. your ilvl should be a measure of the amount of effort you put into this game .

i dont think they should remove lfr because i find it useful for gearing alts but it defintly shouldn't reward anything higher than 340 ilvl gear.
10/22/2018 07:11 PMPosted by Aliandrin
You'd have no more reason to dislike LFR than pet battles.


My God can you imagine these boards if pet battles gave out Normal-level gear?
The people who want Blizzard to get rid of LFR would prefer to play a game with many fewer players. They want the majority of players to quit after having their content removed. Somehow they think that the game will magically stay profitable and continue to produce quality raids despite hardly any customers to pay for them.

It's a matter of principle: better to destroy the game to rid it of those unworthy to share their sacred pixels than allow it to continue to be desecrated by the presence of other human beings.
10/22/2018 07:33 PMPosted by Müppet
i have noticed alot of people who join normal or heroic pug groups in lfr gear tend to wipe groups and flop mechanics because they haven't learned any raiding skills.
they expect the same thing they expect in lfr faceroll the loot pinata until its over.
people getting 370s/titanfoged gear are getting into pug groups with 350-360+ requirments and it simply shouldnt be. your ilvl should be a measure of the amount of effort you put into this game .

i dont think they should remove lfr because i find it useful for gearing alts but it defintly shouldn't reward anything higher than 340 ilvl gear.


Okay, that's a decent case. (I don't agree with it, mainly because there's nothing stopping group leaders from taking Endless on Proving Grounds over high ILvls and probably bought AoTCs, but they lol at Proving Grounds and prefer the iLvls and AoTCs.)

But still, it's a decent case.

The point is, it applies every bit as much to gear bought off the AH as it does gear gotten from LFR. Every argument does because they're all ultimately about the gear.
Right? I got a 370 ring off a world boss.
10/22/2018 07:36 PMPosted by Pharsalus
10/22/2018 07:11 PMPosted by Aliandrin
You'd have no more reason to dislike LFR than pet battles.


My God can you imagine these boards if pet battles gave out Normal-level gear?


My point is why would you care if they did, when you can buy tokens with real-life cash and get BETTER gear for doing NOTHING in-game?

Your argument is that the "retards" aren't putting out enough pure skill for the gear they're getting. Fine. I don't disagree.

But how in the holy ravioli can you believe this and just ignore the fact that the gear real life cash can buy is even better?!?
Why Ask for LFR Removal?

One reason and one reason alone...gear drops.
When pressed they always end up admitting, intentionally or not, that its the gear thats being dropped in LFR that is the reason theyre screaming about removing it.

It aint happening.
Though personally I think it should happen so bunch of players quit and go play some other game and then the money to pay for those raids runs out...then no one will be raiding.
THAT would be funny to watch.
My God can you imagine these boards if pet battles gave out Normal-level gear?

Yeah. And it'd be the same people crying about that who are crying about LFR being removed.
It doesnt affect my game in any way.
I love seeing someone else get a really good drop.
someone months ago got a really high drop in a heroic dungeon that I couldnt believe dropped. Very happy to see him get it.
Never has happened for me, but Im not going to cry about it. I'd like to let him enjoy his drop without making fool of myself by whimpering about it.
Apologies. I forgot to add the /sarc tag to my post
10/22/2018 07:33 PMPosted by Müppet
i dont think they should remove lfr because i find it useful for gearing alts but it defintly shouldn't reward anything higher than 340 ilvl gear.

I could live with that.
I dont think most of us would argue that LFR should be giving out high end gear, at least in any way that would allow us to get entirely suited up.

I wonder, however, how many players are ACTUALLY getting whole sets of high end gear in LFR.
Im betting its few, if any.