Why Arthas did deserve a redemption but didn't get one

I was just going over the wow lore, catching up on some of the story, and as evil and corrupt as Arthas was, there are actually some good acts he did, even as a death knight…

1-He tipped off Illidan to the skull of Gul’dan in Felwood to defeat Tichondrius. This played a role in defeating the Burning Legion.

2-He refused to serve the Jailer

3-He stopped Illidan from destroying the Frozen Throne, thus foiling Kil’Jaadan.

4-When Jaina was considering culling Orgrimmar, she stopped because of what Arthas did at Strathholme.

5-As Jaina said, even when committing atrocities he acted in the name of justice.

So a potential redemption of Arthas may have actually been deserving, as he did some horrible terrible unforgivable things, but it’s not actually the result of bad writing, in reality Arthas DID deserve a chance of redemption in the story.

The real reason Arthas never got a chance at redemption was basically because of what Uther and Devos did,

You see, by taking the law into their own hands, and casting him into the Maw rather than bringing him to the Arbiter, Arthas sould was actually robbed from any chance of redemption. In reality, Arthas should have been in Revendreth at the very least, most likely as one of the ‘workhorses’ like Garrosh during the anima drought, that’s most likely what should have happened, as Arthas probably had even more anima then Garrosh let’s be honest,

The real reason he disappeared as a fart cloud wasn’t because there was any inconsistency in the writing, he was only denied any chance of redemption in the afterlife due to Devos and Uther’s actions, that’s the real reason that Sylvanas got a redemption story and Arthas didn’t.

Uther is the one to blame for throwing his soul into the maw like a vengeful maniac, and that was a dumb thing for Uther to do as that’s what resulted in the Jailer almost winning the war against reality itself.

Just calling it as it is.

Did you think Arthas deserved an actual chance at redemption though, and if so how would it look to you? I mean, everyone says he’s a cool character that deserved better, but disappearing into nothingness in a fart cloud sounds like a better fate then doing dailies in the Maw for an eternity doesn’t it?

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Arthas was always an arrogant douche; that’s why he was manipulated so easily. He was warned repeatedly and ignored everyone because he thought he knew better.

The cut scene with Garrosh was the absolute highlight of this miserable expansion. He went out perfectly, with no apologies given.

Not everyone deserves a redemption arc.

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It’s a good thing you didn’t list the real reason Arthas never got a chance at redemption.

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Nah bruh. /10

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some of you have never seen Blazer defeat Arthas and it shows.

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What was the real reason then?

Surely it wasn’t just Blizzard trolling the fans

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Arthas should have been redeemed and I should have been invited to Arthas and Jaina’s wedding.

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well he can’t be redeemed now, he’s dead

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Because Arthas was a monster who didn’t want redemption.

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And just how does that excuse committing atrocities?

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So did Claude Frollo in the disney hunchback movie. Doesn’t make anything they did okay. Same for Arthas

Theres oodles of evil characters in that category. Just because its justice to THEM doesn’t mean its actual justice. Most folks like that will gladly skew their own rules just so they can have excuses to do stuff

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Arthas just didn’t say he was being manipulated.

That works for the Horde every time!

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Arthas thought he was swinging at his enemies, but dust got in his eyes and he just swung at everything instead. Besides, the devil made him dew eet.

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You serious? You sure you read up on the lore?

No she didn’t she stopped because she was confronted by allies who were not Arthas not to mention what happened at Strathholme didn’t stop her from culling the Blood Elves in Dalaran

Honestly hoping Bliz ret con the lore so that both Jaina and Sylvanas were kidnapped by Dreadlords and replaced at the end of WotLK their writing has just been that bad.

Oh and then just to piss of the Arthas fans make it so that during their years in Imprisonment Sylvanas and Jaina fell in love and are now a thing cause that would be amusing to watch the reactions too :dracthyr_comfy_sip:

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Because these Danuser era writers cared more about trying to redeem Sylvanas and tell her story rather than Arthas’ is the obvious answer. There are plenty of ways they could’ve redeemed Arthas, and frankly what 90% of the people who care about lore wanted to see anyway, not this garbage Sylvanas redemption and Jailer story crap. Everyone who is an actual fan of WoW lore knows this, and knows the reason Arthas wasn’t present or treated the way he was in SL wasn’t because he was irredeemable, but more so because these writers are such hacks they desperately attempted to (and failed miserably) to make us care about Sylvanas more instead. In the end their choice got the garbage reception it deserved, and WoW’s lore is destroyed. Ironically now they’re milking Arthas with WOTLK classic to the max, because maybe they finally realized how bad they messed up.

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So was Ysera…

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They did not even need a complete redemption story for arthas just make a good story like maybe we meet him in the maw and despite our differences we help each other against a common enemy. They just wiped garrosh and arthas like nothing but at least Garrosh had a cutscene and going out in a blaze of glory. Arthas just dissipated like nothing after he got teased early on in SL like he would be a part of the story with Uther unjustly throwing him into the maw and quest saying Arthas might be somewhere in the maw because of it.

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It was still pretty chad of Garrosh to go “AND I’D DO IT AGAIN” before his soul went poof

Sometimes a mega unapologetic villain is just fun

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Not really no he was irredeemable

Actually it was cope harder :dracthyr_shrug:

It was destroyed years ago long before Danuser was in charge so yeah obviously not an “actual fan of WoW lore” :dracthyr_comfy_sip:

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I dunno man wrath of the LICH KING would be kinda weird if he wasn’t being shown

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