Why aren't there more WW Monk?

They are #1 DPS in a lot of the mythic race guilds and they are parsing really well
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/26#dataset=90

But why do guilds stack Hunters instead? I get unholy DK because of the AMZ but why hunters? They deal significantly lower damage than WW Monks? :thinking:

Maybe because people enjoy ranged dps.

Because WW Monk has historically been extremely bad and is usually about as inconsistent as they come.

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WW monks might be good at damage right now but hunters could scale better.

It’s also about mechanics and utility, hunters bring more utility and since they play the ranged specs they have an easier time with mechanics.

Monks in general are unpopular though so it’s normal that we are not as played.

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If we’re on top it’s an accident. So don’t worry, we’ll get nerfed into the ground pretty soon.

This is the way.

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Wouldn’t them being finally being really good give them that benefit that maybe they’ll be good for the rest of the expansion?

Then we should expect to see more monks for 9.1 or 9.2, not right now.

WW was not a hyped class when people were choosing mains. They were billed as bottom tier trash melee that you would never want in your raid. This is legitimately why. The spec is super fun.

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They have a bad reputation for scaling but right now it’s a little strange how well they seemed to pick up after geared fed gear

People are drawing parallels to last xpacs first raid tier where monks were doing well then dropped off

The difference now is we did boat loads of damage from karma and ToD abuse and this time it seems to be raw damage from Xuen and just being more stable over all

So I think people are a bit weird about monks still

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it’s a somewhat complex and not especially rewarding rotation

they start strong but don’t scale as well with gear as basically any other spec

they’re really the only melee spec i enjoy, sadly

Maybe?

I really want to see more players at Trill’s level pick that class up. I know Trill is probably the single best WoW player on the planet but that guy’s performance in RWF was absolutely incredible.

Really? I’ve heard they were a straightforward type of DPS rotation. I have heard about the non scaling part but maybe Blizzard finally fixed that this expansion. I mean, they are doing a looot of damage now.

Hard to tell on the scaling right now and the rotation does have a bit to it but it’s not overly complex

Haha no, our rotation is crazy. We have a lot of buttons and stuff to keep track of and the legendaries can change it a lot.

We did not scale well in the past but I have noticed a big jump in power with each piece I get so we might be scaling better this time around.

Haha yeah. Make me wonder though, had he played maybe a fire mage or an MM hunter or maybe even a frost mage…would that spec be at the top instead of a WW monk?

There are basically three reasons (one alluded to earlier).

  1. Monks are the least played class, so statistics wise, they are going to be less represented.

  2. When all the youtube videos were making their tier lists, they consistently placed WW monk low. So, it didn’t give people at lot of incentive to pick it up as a new main. Curiously, they would often state it was a good spec, but it simply lacked the damage in comparison to other classes.

  3. During the pre-patch, WW Monk was still low, so it confirmed for many what the youtube experts were stating, and so, when SL launched, there weren’t many WW monks out there. I even remember a thread being made asking WW monks mains to report as a kind of motivation for the fact they were playing it.

This first raid though, has really made so many youtube predictors look silly. They were all screaming priest, especially shadow and disc, and now shadow isn’t seen as THAT impressive, and there’s various disc prists who are actually playing holy!

Some other classes have had a similar experience. Back in pre-patch, so many were playing their OP frost mages, and now they are screaming for buffs.

All youtubers were placing disc and druid as the s-class healers, and shaman was ranked A, B, or even C, cause their only strength was doing stacked healing. Well, we know how that prediction turned out.

Youtubers said the only good spec seen for Monk was brewmaster!

In Sum, few monk players in BFA plus youtubers ranking Monk low in their tier lists all led to everyone deciding it wasn’t worth it. NOW, you listen to their CURRENT tier lists, and they often say “WoW, what a shock! WW Monk! Who would have thought?”

Shows how good they were at predicting, and how at the end of the day, it’s all about how they do in a raid environment.

If the numbers hold, we may definitely see an increase in Monk Players, and that really wouldn’t be a bad thing. I personally LOVE WW Monk, and was disheartened to hear all the negativity pre-SL, so really happy to see it doing well.

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There are a lot of buttons, but honestly it was a rotation that really clicked easily for me. Understanding the goal was to keep up the mastery by always changing the next move I did, I found the chi system kinda straightforward and obvious.

I also love the animations and how every move looks unique.

I wonder though if WW monk are doing really well RIGHT NOW, why not stack them over MM hunters when they are doing more DPS overall? Do you think top guilds would have stacked WW monks instead of hunters and DKs had they known they were performing really well?

I was running my super geared (for heroics) warrior through heroics and one day and there was this monk in the group pulling impressive numbers.

So i checked her out expecting to see mythic dungeon gear equipped. Nope, her gearing was below mine, so embarrassing.

Next thing you know I’m rolling my first alt and it’s a WW monk. I’m so onboard that train, and I havent been regretting it lol.

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Because especially when doing new content people don’t only go for strong dps classes, but safe picks. That is why you see so many hunters