Why aren't rogues sapping?

Because nobody ever asks me to lol. I think I’ve been asked to sap once since classic released.

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I always run up to sap, and wait for the tank and then he usually charges in and demo shouts them all anyway, or the mage instantly blizzard the area, or Warlock rain.

Rogues are trying, but the Zoomer mentality kills class specifics.

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If your group is able to AoE the pack down…why would you want to CC the mob with Sap and prolong the fight?

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It’s much harder to sap than polymorph or any other form of crowd control. Your target needs to be still and unaware, and last I heard it could not be used in combat. This means that rogues have to sap before the pull, which is very risky since it means if they fail, they immediately get ganged up on by every nearby elite. Which can be a death sentence for the rogue.

At least mages can poly at any time, and then recast the poly if it breaks.

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Sap is harder to use than some CC’s, but not that hard.

Groups simply like to zip through and AoE everything instead, though. At least people start reaching for that stuff after a bad pull, I guess.

Stun-locking a mob is not the same thing as CC. When a mage sheeps a mob, he doesn’t have to keep targeting it to stay CC’d.

What you are proposing is what should be done for 1st-target mobs in large pulls where the tank doesn’t try to hold the 1st mob.

even if you spec for it only 90%

Only hearted this 'cause it made me giggle :rofl:

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There’s absolutely no point doing this though. As a tank I want to be able to position the mobs. If a rogue is sapping and aggroing them all I can’t do that. I don’t see why anyone would want to use Sap in a dungeon unless you literally couldn’t survive the pull without it.

I actually leveled up with an imp sap build and I used it exactly one time in a dungeon until I went combat at 58. It was on the 4 dark iron pull in gnomeregan. I offer all the time, too. Even without imp sap it’s not hard to hit evasion or vanish or just have a priest bubble on.

Edit: Just to add I got a ton of utility out of it while soloing so didn’t feel like a waste or anything. I just recall doing a whole lot more sapping in groups back in the day. CC overall just isn’t used much anymore, everyone just dives in and face tanks everything.

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Theres a difference in just fine and what you could be doing.

Less mana spent with casters and healers can lead to faster pulls if your not waiting on drinking. If your a good tank you just charge and demo shout. All the mobs are instantly on the tank so control really isn’t an issue. Cc can be really handy in harder dungeons. Try it sometime you might be amazed by how smooth runs can go.

Killing mobs 1 by 1 instead of AOEing them means more mana spent, not less.

Not always. Casters have to drink after every pull after aoeing. It’s a lot less mana to single target down mobs. You can chain pull 3 packs before drinking which can lead to faster clear times. You also don’t have to rez the occasional dead mage or lock.

Also, you still have 2 mobs up on a lot of pulls, letting rogues and warriors still cleave.

No, it isn’t.

What this guy said, Vanish if you are afraid of dying after a sap.

As one person stated… mark it and ask me and I’ll sap it. If you don’t, I’ll assume the group doesn’t know what to do with a Classic sap scenario and will just yell at the dumbass rogue who pulled aggro and died.

Ok zoomer. Keep doing you.

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