Ok chatgpt
He thinks heâs getting 15 pieces of loot with 15 runs!! Does he not know, not all runs with non-Bountiful Delves do not reward gear??? 
He donât know in 15 runs in a single day:
- 1 piece of Hero from Bountiful Map + 1 piece of Champion gear from Bountiful Chest (within the same map)
- 3 more pieces of Champion gear from the rest of the Bountiful Delves
- Total of 4 pieces of champion gear for that day
- Non-Bountiful Delves rewards Warband Veteran track gear which is 100% RNG if you get any.
So, youâre looting Warband Veteran gear after youâve expended all of your Coffer Keys for the day completing 4 Bountiful Delves until daily reset the next day.
So, out of 14 gear slot character, 15 pieces of gear, all which cannot be targeted and possibly be identical pieces of gear of the same type.
So, most of that character will have Veteran (623 1/8) gear which can be upgraded maximum to Champion 636 1/8 track. Even still, the time to get up around 640 item level in one day isnât even possible anyway because you need a multitude of Crests for every upgrade of Veteran gear to Champion gear and Champion gear to Hero gear.
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idk bro youâre in here throwing around a lotta names and posting loquacious paragraphs, as if being brobdingnagian with your verbiage (lol) instantiated an argument
The thing is merry go rounds are fun but people are just wasting a Saturday doing this
You already have Mythic raiding and high-level M+ for that.
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This has already been clarified. Way to double down on that lack of reading comprehension.
Why would i run a delve without a key?
So folks who play m+ and raids arent allowed to do delves? Talk about gatekeeping lol
I am going to need you to point to where, exactly, I said anything to this effect.
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Right here.
lmfao and youâre saying other people canât read well.
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Not only is it isolated, but player power being even is necessary for the health of the pillar. Entering into an arena where one team just straight has access to 30% more stats is actively detrimental to the success and satisfaction of the experience.
This is not the case in PvE, and in fact an attractive part of the PvE loop for many is the process of becoming stronger by overcoming challenges, which in turn make you stronger yet, and therefore allow you to tackle even more difficult challenges. Itâs fun to return to content you havenât done since earlier in the season and blast it wide open, and PvE can afford to supply this experience because that enjoyment doesnât come at the direct cost of anyone, like it would (and used to) in PvP.
The only people who have issues with it are very small, jealous individuals. They have some malfunction where it absolutely incenses them that things exist that arenât for them, even if they want those things. They are only capable of being happy if there is nothing that they want and canât have.
Explain to me, in detail, how that statement in any way implied that M+ and Raid players âarenât allowedâ to do delves.
Please be specific.
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Iâll take what blizzard deems healthy over you armchair reward designer
and apparently armchair psychologist, since heâs so willing to use personal attacks. these dudes are just too funny
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Delves are meant to be for everyone.
Youre claiming if anyone wants any sort of challenge to not play delves. To go elsewhere.
Instead of making the game mode for everyone like it was intended, youre telling people to not do delves for something they want in the game.
Shame on you. For all your strawman and incorrect buzzwords, there hasnt been a single m+ player saying if you want hero track gear to go raid or do m+
grizz, champ, if youâre gonna get up your own rear about reading comprehension, at least know the correct plural for âstrawmanâ 
Thats fair, i didnt even see that. It was meant to be singular anyway /shrug
keeping it singular wouldâve also been incorrect. put the shovel down, this pit is deep enough
No, no. See. This is you putting words in my mouth.
I said that, those who are seeking challenging content can do M+ and Mythic Raids. Those people can still do delves, of course, but delves are not designed to be exceptionally challenging content. Delves are made for people who like to play less-demanding content.
Anyone can play Delves. But if youâre looking for some kind of massive challenge, thatâs not what Delves are meant to be.
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Itâs just odd to me that those arguing against the current reward/effort ratio in delves are looping and repeating themselves like broken robots, with, in fact, little gains or rewards in this endless discussion. Maybe not the best ones to be in charge of game design and player retention then?
Anyone who understands time has value and doesnât like to bang their heads against a wall for little reward are not even bothering with this discussion. They are playing the game or doing something else rewarding with their time.
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