Why are you allowing GDKP in SoD?

[Fiendw-lone-wolf]

So they’ve…increased the price of items, but no one is buying them and they are just going to lose on them, so they didn’t increase the price of items at all, if i buy a bottle of pepsi and resell it at my lemonade stand for $5000, is the price of pepsi now $5000?

[Hazerd-azjolnerub (Hazerd)]

cant imagine paying gold for level 25 items, maybe if it was like DFT from BWL or something though

[Therontus-emerald-dream]

No, people buy them because they don’t have a choice. They’re about to go to raid and they’re underprepared for it. But they have a mountain of GDKP gold and they’re about to make another mountain of GDKP gold in that naxx gdkp. So they just pay the inflated fake price cause they don’t have another choice.

[Zaigo-bleeding-hollow]

@Amireyn-lava-lash

All you would accomplish by banning GDKPs

is seeing the rmt launderers qq into oblivion

dont care
ban gdkps

@Therontus-emerald-dream

People buy gold, they pay a crap ton of gold for whatever they want. The gold gets spread between the people in the raid. The people in the raid that didn’t buy gold just got a stupid amount of gold. At least a handful of these people use this ill-gotten gold to buy consumes or whatever else, sometimes they buy everything out. People repost things for stupid high prices. People with the GDKP gold don’t really care how much they have to pay for whatever they’re buying from the AH, because they have so much, so they pay whatever the price is for whatever they need. The prices skyrocket because for everything from BoEs to consumes because of this. Now the only way to afford consumes is to either buy gold or go to GDKPs and hope a big “buyer” comes in and pays a stupid amount for an item so they can afford consumes for whatever else they’re doing. Eventually, after this has gone on long enough, the primary way to make gold to afford things is to either cheat or to go to GDKPs or run them yourself. After this goes on long enough, the primary raid you said being run in general is a GDKP. Now all you have is GDKPs and a select amount of LC and SR runs that can’t get going because all the people that are actually trying are only doing GDKPs because they need to use their lockouts to afford consumes.

@Therontus-emerald-dream

The bots create literally millions of gold that wasn’t in the economy. The gold buyers buy that gold, they use that gold to buy stuff in GDKPs for stupid amounts. That gold gets spread to non-gold buyers. They buy out the auction house. They repost for higher pricers. Other gdkpers no longer care about the price of items. They pay whatever they have to. People keep posting for high prices because it sells. Everyone has to find someway to afford their consumes so they also do GDKPs.

This is reality. This is what happened. I know it doesn’t suit your narrative, but that’s how this works.

@Zaigo-bleeding-hollow

Then, comes the WoW token.

[Amireyn-lava-lash]

That’s a ridiculous assertion when chats and groups exist. It isn’t difficult at all to offer to pay someone for consumeables at a much more reasonable price that’s still worth their while.

[Zaigo-bleeding-hollow]

@Baddtank-lone-wolf

Gdkp status

on lockout

dont care
ban gdkps

@Therontus-emerald-dream

People buy gold, they pay a crap ton of gold for whatever they want. The gold gets spread between the people in the raid. The people in the raid that didn’t buy gold just got a stupid amount of gold. At least a handful of these people use this ill-gotten gold to buy consumes or whatever else, sometimes they buy everything out. People repost things for stupid high prices. People with the GDKP gold don’t really care how much they have to pay for whatever they’re buying from the AH, because they have so much, so they pay whatever the price is for whatever they need. The prices skyrocket because for everything from BoEs to consumes because of this. Now the only way to afford consumes is to either buy gold or go to GDKPs and hope a big “buyer” comes in and pays a stupid amount for an item so they can afford consumes for whatever else they’re doing. Eventually, after this has gone on long enough, the primary way to make gold to afford things is to either cheat or to go to GDKPs or run them yourself. After this goes on long enough, the primary raid you said being run in general is a GDKP. Now all you have is GDKPs and a select amount of LC and SR runs that can’t get going because all the people that are actually trying are only doing GDKPs because they need to use their lockouts to afford consumes.

@Therontus-emerald-dream

The bots create literally millions of gold that wasn’t in the economy. The gold buyers buy that gold, they use that gold to buy stuff in GDKPs for stupid amounts. That gold gets spread to non-gold buyers. They buy out the auction house. They repost for higher pricers. Other gdkpers no longer care about the price of items. They pay whatever they have to. People keep posting for high prices because it sells. Everyone has to find someway to afford their consumes so they also do GDKPs.

This is reality. This is what happened. I know it doesn’t suit your narrative, but that’s how this works.

@Zaigo-bleeding-hollow

Then, comes the WoW token.

[Fiendw-lone-wolf]

ofcourse they have a choice lmao, its wow,

“uhh guys can someone help me? i logged in at 7:59 for a raid at 8 on a tuesday and ran to the ah to buy some consumes and they were more expensive, those darn gold buyers”

[Zaigo-bleeding-hollow]

@Amireyn-lava-lash

ridiculous assertion

yeah its a giant leap to think gdkps are rmt laundering

dont care
ban gdkps

@Therontus-emerald-dream

People buy gold, they pay a crap ton of gold for whatever they want. The gold gets spread between the people in the raid. The people in the raid that didn’t buy gold just got a stupid amount of gold. At least a handful of these people use this ill-gotten gold to buy consumes or whatever else, sometimes they buy everything out. People repost things for stupid high prices. People with the GDKP gold don’t really care how much they have to pay for whatever they’re buying from the AH, because they have so much, so they pay whatever the price is for whatever they need. The prices skyrocket because for everything from BoEs to consumes because of this. Now the only way to afford consumes is to either buy gold or go to GDKPs and hope a big “buyer” comes in and pays a stupid amount for an item so they can afford consumes for whatever else they’re doing. Eventually, after this has gone on long enough, the primary way to make gold to afford things is to either cheat or to go to GDKPs or run them yourself. After this goes on long enough, the primary raid you said being run in general is a GDKP. Now all you have is GDKPs and a select amount of LC and SR runs that can’t get going because all the people that are actually trying are only doing GDKPs because they need to use their lockouts to afford consumes.

@Therontus-emerald-dream

The bots create literally millions of gold that wasn’t in the economy. The gold buyers buy that gold, they use that gold to buy stuff in GDKPs for stupid amounts. That gold gets spread to non-gold buyers. They buy out the auction house. They repost for higher pricers. Other gdkpers no longer care about the price of items. They pay whatever they have to. People keep posting for high prices because it sells. Everyone has to find someway to afford their consumes so they also do GDKPs.

This is reality. This is what happened. I know it doesn’t suit your narrative, but that’s how this works.

@Zaigo-bleeding-hollow

Then, comes the WoW token.

[Baddtank-lone-wolf]

In an alternate reality we woulda been friends ziago.

[Therontus-emerald-dream]

That would require communication and using the AH is a lot easier than communicating with someone and getting consumes made when you have a mountain of gold that you have nothing else to spend on.

[Therontus-emerald-dream]

That would require people caring about it enough to communicate with people about it. They’d rather just pay since the gold doesn’t matter to them cause they have so much.

[Drinknblink-benediction]

I can’t believe the price of peacebloom all because some guy bought a ring in ICC.

[Zaigo-bleeding-hollow]

@Baddtank-lone-wolf

alternate reality

if only, could still happen.

dont care
ban gdkps

@Therontus-emerald-dream

People buy gold, they pay a crap ton of gold for whatever they want. The gold gets spread between the people in the raid. The people in the raid that didn’t buy gold just got a stupid amount of gold. At least a handful of these people use this ill-gotten gold to buy consumes or whatever else, sometimes they buy everything out. People repost things for stupid high prices. People with the GDKP gold don’t really care how much they have to pay for whatever they’re buying from the AH, because they have so much, so they pay whatever the price is for whatever they need. The prices skyrocket because for everything from BoEs to consumes because of this. Now the only way to afford consumes is to either buy gold or go to GDKPs and hope a big “buyer” comes in and pays a stupid amount for an item so they can afford consumes for whatever else they’re doing. Eventually, after this has gone on long enough, the primary way to make gold to afford things is to either cheat or to go to GDKPs or run them yourself. After this goes on long enough, the primary raid you said being run in general is a GDKP. Now all you have is GDKPs and a select amount of LC and SR runs that can’t get going because all the people that are actually trying are only doing GDKPs because they need to use their lockouts to afford consumes.

@Therontus-emerald-dream

The bots create literally millions of gold that wasn’t in the economy. The gold buyers buy that gold, they use that gold to buy stuff in GDKPs for stupid amounts. That gold gets spread to non-gold buyers. They buy out the auction house. They repost for higher pricers. Other gdkpers no longer care about the price of items. They pay whatever they have to. People keep posting for high prices because it sells. Everyone has to find someway to afford their consumes so they also do GDKPs.

This is reality. This is what happened. I know it doesn’t suit your narrative, but that’s how this works.

@Zaigo-bleeding-hollow

Then, comes the WoW token.

[Fiendw-lone-wolf]

Its kinda funny to see a guy explain an economy in ruin by describing what has happened every single tuesday night since mid vanilla, the people who somehow don’t know that the consumes they used last week will be used tonight and they have a raid in 4 minutes and get spiked on some of their raid consumes = a master manipulator behind the scenes funded by gdkps is buying out the auction house

[Amireyn-lava-lash]

If that’s the case, then what, exactly, is the issue? You framed your point as if people were being excluded from content due to the prices of consumables.

[Therontus-emerald-dream]

That’s part of a running joke on era actually. “I saw him out there picking the peacebloom day and night, that’s how he afforded that 1m Gressil”

[Linerider-malfurion]

@Drinknblink-benediction

Yea that’s why the AH prices for consumes really never go up on my WOTLK server,they talk about inflation and I just dont see it

Can you provide proof that bots keep inflation under check? On my server Atiesh consumables have gone up more 200%.

Speed Pots in week 8 of Wotlk were 8g, today 19.5g

Flask of Endless Rage were 10g gold, today they are 33g99s.

Inflation happens over time as more gold gets injected into the economy but with bots farming, buyers doing RMT and GDKPs pumping insane gold into players pockets it accelerates the inflation.

It’s all sh t and you know it. You are personally benefitting though so you will never admit it.

[Amireyn-lava-lash]

This is why I farm a few days out of the week, but most of my AH listings fall on Tuesdays.

[Therontus-emerald-dream]

Inflated prices. I see no actual issue with the inflation cause I can pretty easily survive here, as can anyone that tries. The argument is that GDKPs don’t cause inflation. I’m arguing the contrary with my experience.

[Fiendw-lone-wolf]

The answer is simple really, harder content x ban wave x bots taken away from wotlk and added to sod, a speed pot on benediction was as low as 4 gold during togc, that’s cheaper than a tbc haste potion in tempest keep

interested to know how he benefits tho, go on