Sometimes the real world solutions are about lowering propensities since outright elimination isn’t attainable
dreamfoil is 8g
you could farm 1000g worth of mats relatively quickly.
But its not 15 years ago.
15 years ago… not many people used consumes, potions and flasks on CD to ensure high performance.
the land scape changed and blizzard did next to nothing to accommodate it.
At the end of the day its always going to be supply vs demand that increases prices.
YES a large amount of gold in the economy means things naturally drift upwards. but people who farm materials to sell benefit from this as well.
the only people who suffer are the low effort raid loggers.
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Any chance we can report this guy that just keeps copy/pasting himself for spam?
The screwed economy isn’t optional. Keep denying RMT is rampant in GDKPs though it’s amusing as a whitemane player having seen how bad it is.
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Noxranna:
report this guy
the irony is not lost on me
dont care
Therontus:
People buy gold, they pay a crap ton of gold for whatever they want. The gold gets spread between the people in the raid. The people in the raid that didn’t buy gold just got a stupid amount of gold. At least a handful of these people use this ill-gotten gold to buy consumes or whatever else, sometimes they buy everything out. People repost things for stupid high prices. People with the GDKP gold don’t really care how much they have to pay for whatever they’re buying from the AH, because they have so much, so they pay whatever the price is for whatever they need. The prices skyrocket because for everything from BoEs to consumes because of this. Now the only way to afford consumes is to either buy gold or go to GDKPs and hope a big “buyer” comes in and pays a stupid amount for an item so they can afford consumes for whatever else they’re doing. Eventually, after this has gone on long enough, the primary way to make gold to afford things is to either cheat or to go to GDKPs or run them yourself. After this goes on long enough, the primary raid you said being run in general is a GDKP. Now all you have is GDKPs and a select amount of LC and SR runs that can’t get going because all the people that are actually trying are only doing GDKPs because they need to use their lockouts to afford consumes.
Therontus:
The bots create literally millions of gold that wasn’t in the economy. The gold buyers buy that gold, they use that gold to buy stuff in GDKPs for stupid amounts. That gold gets spread to non-gold buyers. They buy out the auction house. They repost for higher pricers. Other gdkpers no longer care about the price of items. They pay whatever they have to. People keep posting for high prices because it sells. Everyone has to find someway to afford their consumes so they also do GDKPs.
This is reality. This is what happened. I know it doesn’t suit your narrative, but that’s how this works.
Here’s another RMT defense spiel coming in. ZzzZZZZZ.
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He’s literally the only person I had to put on ignore in 5 years of the forums.
Drinknblink:
put on ignore
along with your non rmt “buyers”
dont care
Therontus:
People buy gold, they pay a crap ton of gold for whatever they want. The gold gets spread between the people in the raid. The people in the raid that didn’t buy gold just got a stupid amount of gold. At least a handful of these people use this ill-gotten gold to buy consumes or whatever else, sometimes they buy everything out. People repost things for stupid high prices. People with the GDKP gold don’t really care how much they have to pay for whatever they’re buying from the AH, because they have so much, so they pay whatever the price is for whatever they need. The prices skyrocket because for everything from BoEs to consumes because of this. Now the only way to afford consumes is to either buy gold or go to GDKPs and hope a big “buyer” comes in and pays a stupid amount for an item so they can afford consumes for whatever else they’re doing. Eventually, after this has gone on long enough, the primary way to make gold to afford things is to either cheat or to go to GDKPs or run them yourself. After this goes on long enough, the primary raid you said being run in general is a GDKP. Now all you have is GDKPs and a select amount of LC and SR runs that can’t get going because all the people that are actually trying are only doing GDKPs because they need to use their lockouts to afford consumes.
Therontus:
The bots create literally millions of gold that wasn’t in the economy. The gold buyers buy that gold, they use that gold to buy stuff in GDKPs for stupid amounts. That gold gets spread to non-gold buyers. They buy out the auction house. They repost for higher pricers. Other gdkpers no longer care about the price of items. They pay whatever they have to. People keep posting for high prices because it sells. Everyone has to find someway to afford their consumes so they also do GDKPs.
This is reality. This is what happened. I know it doesn’t suit your narrative, but that’s how this works.
Alright, to the block list then…
Also, I don’t think you know what irony is
The screwed economy would exist without GDKPs. That’s what you refuse to even consider.
The screwed economy exists because of RMT. RMT can, has, and will exist without GDKPs. RMT will always exist. The negative effects of RMT, including those caused by a potential feedback loop involving GDKPs, is solved by actually enforcing existing RMT rules.
Banning GDKPs would do -absolutely nothing- to mitigate economic problems caused by RMT, but would cause problems for players because GDKPs serve a functional purpose. GDKPs can continue to serve that purpose without causing any harm to the economy, because the harm to the economy is created by RMT.
Given that RMT existed in WoW prior to GDKPs taking off, that RMT exists in games with no analogue to GDKPs, that RMT exists in every MMO, what makes you think that banning GDKPs is the solution? It just flat-out does not make any sense.
I wish I was around when this was originally posted, its really a post made with absolutely 0 understanding of how big wow servers are now and the effect “buying out” the auction house would have. There is a reason why people with millions of gold don’t buy out the auction house and that reason is, they can’t and even if they could, they’d lose gold on it.
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Fiendw:
There is a reason
people love rmt laundering through gdkps
dont care
Therontus:
People buy gold, they pay a crap ton of gold for whatever they want. The gold gets spread between the people in the raid. The people in the raid that didn’t buy gold just got a stupid amount of gold. At least a handful of these people use this ill-gotten gold to buy consumes or whatever else, sometimes they buy everything out. People repost things for stupid high prices. People with the GDKP gold don’t really care how much they have to pay for whatever they’re buying from the AH, because they have so much, so they pay whatever the price is for whatever they need. The prices skyrocket because for everything from BoEs to consumes because of this. Now the only way to afford consumes is to either buy gold or go to GDKPs and hope a big “buyer” comes in and pays a stupid amount for an item so they can afford consumes for whatever else they’re doing. Eventually, after this has gone on long enough, the primary way to make gold to afford things is to either cheat or to go to GDKPs or run them yourself. After this goes on long enough, the primary raid you said being run in general is a GDKP. Now all you have is GDKPs and a select amount of LC and SR runs that can’t get going because all the people that are actually trying are only doing GDKPs because they need to use their lockouts to afford consumes.
Therontus:
The bots create literally millions of gold that wasn’t in the economy. The gold buyers buy that gold, they use that gold to buy stuff in GDKPs for stupid amounts. That gold gets spread to non-gold buyers. They buy out the auction house. They repost for higher pricers. Other gdkpers no longer care about the price of items. They pay whatever they have to. People keep posting for high prices because it sells. Everyone has to find someway to afford their consumes so they also do GDKPs.
This is reality. This is what happened. I know it doesn’t suit your narrative, but that’s how this works.
Yea that’s why the AH prices for consumes really never go up on my WOTLK server,they talk about inflation and I just dont see it
On big wow servers. You said those words yourself. You have no understanding of era. People do it here for fun, not for profit. They’ll reset the market cause they can. People post things for higher pricers just cause they can. They don’t care if people actually buy them or not. Era is not a big wow server.
Not. To. The. Same. Extent.
The. Extent. Is. The. Issue. And. The. Easiest. Thing. To. Reduce.
(And also the only realistic option)
Removing an entire loot method doesn’t seem realistic at all
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