I would say that with the difficulty of leveling/questing/etc. that currently exists on some of the PVP servers, the community has a strong catalyst to become much better.
Grouping up is important. Rallying people to build teams, to contribute to community activities, like escorting parties and raid teams, and overcoming obstacles in the game (as a community) are things that we have more of a chance to face in Classic than Retail, esp. without layering, and even more especially without cross realm grouping.
Correct. Even unhappy people still play wow, they just eventually figure out a way to make themselves happy (happier at least)
These same players wonât be happy with the next thing that comes along. Should we cater to them all along and eventually end up with retail? If they allowed transfers already, then the once balanced pvp servers (yes, they do exist) would also be imbalanced and people would just blame Blizzard for it.
This guy isnât going to understand our side of the story. He just shills his own point day in and day out. Every time I see a thread like this itâs this guy.
Iâve told you why, it would cause way more people to transfer off, entire guilds. Whereas that one person who will quit probably would have quit anyway.
Flamelash wouldnât have died if transfers werenât an option, you can apply what happened there to our conversation days before it happened.
Stop making these threads, I donât know if you noticed but an hour after my thread stating âif paid transfers came inâ thread, they updated their policy to clarify âIf you donât like your realm, rerollâ.
Blizzard has spoken, and itâs not gatekeeping and everything to do with the fact that more servers like flamelash will be created with paid transfers.
Dude, BGs are out tomorrow⌠can you hold off on shilling your paid transfer agenda until tomorrow?
Uh, yes. Most people would rather stay and cry than spend weeks leveling to 60 again and getting the same gear. I had a friend who was level 21 and didnât want to reroll on a new server to play with friends because âlevel 21 took too long as isâ.
Well yeah, sure. The potential to be a better community is there once the game settles, but right now the game is very volatile. Though it is settling. Im definitely feeling stronger ties than I felt last time I played retail thats for sure.
Because the people who want to server transfer are probably going to quit the game in time if they dont.
Sure some people are fine with rerolling but most people will just quit > spending another 18+ days of their life leveling a new char to 60, gearing them up, farming their professions again, and farming gold for mount.
Seriously be realistic dude
I am being realistic which is why I said for the very imbalanced servers (a few of them) they should add transfers. For the more balanced ones (the majority) they should not allow it.
If thatâs the concern, just do what normal companies do and temper demand by increasing cost. Make it a $50 transfer and I promise you many people on the fence will not leave. Make it $75 for all I care, I would still pay it.
Thatâs the nail of the coffin. And even more, people that arenât that unhappy with the server can just xfer because they will fear end on a death faction, leading even more to that point.
Not to mention dumb irrelevant things can trigger the entire death of a server.
One guild could leave, causing another guild to leave, and now the word is out that the server is âdyingâ because two guilds of 40 people left and causes a chain, now that chain is accessible due to paid transfers so the downward spiral can commence.
Thatâs literally exactly what happened to Flamelash, yet people like OP completely ignore it and CONTINUE to make these threads.
I call that âsunken cost weirdnessâ my time. Itâs the one thing I canât make more of, and thus, is my most precious commodity. (insert yet here you sit on these awful forums jab)
I like WoW for many reasons, one of them being that my time invested actually matters. I could spend all day playing a game like Rust and the second I log out, everything Iâve built is destroyedâŚmy sunken time matters in WoW, and I donât want to put the clock back to zero.
i was trying to explain to them why people want transfers. you know that i am in full support of you guys getting pve transfers and iâd prefer them to be free. but some people donât mind rerolling. so to us it seems different than it does to you. which is why i brought it up to them in the first place.
Iâm in full support of the big servers with like 30/70 20/80 getting their transfers⌠those servers are already dead anyway. What Iâm not in support of is every single realm getting them.
All fair points. But thatâs how you feel. Otherâs clearly donât feel the same way. They donât care about server pride or any of that, they just wanna come home from work and play an hour or two of WoW. All Iâm saying is, let them do that where theyâre most comfortable.
Itâs not up to me to let them or not. And, as far as I know, they are already able to do so.
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Also, thatâs not what youâre saying. Youâre saying let them transfer now, without a thought or care to what that would mean to destination servers, or community of those servers. Give them what they want, because they made a mistake and they should be rewarded with an easy change, because they donât care.