Why are you against PvP-PvE transfers

Eventually, maybe. And “maybe” not for all servers.

Its not a mistake stop spreading false information

Aren’t you the one who wants to transfer because you made the mistake of rolling a pvp server?

They were in Vanilla sure.

The main issue is

Let’s drop a general gauge of faction involvement on a mega populated Classic PvP server (at least 3-8 times larger than the biggest Vanilla servers)

  • 50-52% - Generally balanced server, both sides camp each other and have their moments.

  • 53-56% - Imbalanced server, there’s a noticeable and obvious knowledge of the imbalance and the Majority Faction asserts their dominance.

  • 57-59% - High disparity server, the imbalance is so bad that the Majority server has optimized every contested zone and even attacks the Minority faction’s capital as there just aren’t enough Minority Faction members to farm in the open world.

  • 60-65% Super Majority Disparity Server - The imbalance is at Oppressive levels where all zones are camped by the Majority Faction and the Minority faction capital city is under 24/7 attack from the Majority Faction.

  • 66%+ Perfect Domination - The imbalance has completely forced the Minority Faction off the server. The Majority faction has won the war and asserts dominance and control over the Minority Faction’s capital city and whatever resistance (or existance) is left is crushed by sheer massive numbers and camped until logout.

TLDR - PvP —> PvE transfers moves all PvP servers further down on this list. Completely destroying servers and creating ones like Skeram and Heartseeker.

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And not having transfers creates them too. Just at a slower rate.

All you’re trading is transfers for unsubs.

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Eh, not really. Most will see BGs will fix a lot of this. Or they will actually re-roll and still play.

https://wowclassicpopulation.com/characters?minLevel=60&realm=4406_Herod

To be honest, there’s no fixing the server at this point. The damage shouldn’t have been done in the first place.

I think you’re in for a rude surprise with Horde BG queues.

After the first week or so we’ll see. I’m not optimistic.

Thats my point.

People keep talking like the PvP realms are still salvageable. They aren’t.

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I’m optimistic. Most Alliance rolled pve, but that doesn’t mean they won’t queue BGs. Just like not every Horde on a pvp server will queue BGs. The factions are pretty even overall.

It all depends on how much PvEers want to pursue their BiS.

PvEers really want to pursue their BiS so it’s safe to say queues won’t be affected until AT LEAST AV is exalted (1 week) and maybe until they finish WSG exalted (1-3 months).

Some are, some aren’t. PvP to PvE transfers will ensure that a lot of levelers would have already transferred, had they already been implemented. Thankfully, Blizz wasn’t as money hungry as people claim or they would have put them in a week ago.

Which ones are salvageable? I’d imagine you can count them on one hand.

Unless you think 60/40 is fine, in which case you lack any perspective or understanding of how bad that really is.

They probably waited to see how it will effect WPvP and assuming people will come back and if not then transfers are there.

Regardless transfers are going to be a thing.

Yes, for a few servers I’d imagine… The rest are fine.

60/40 is fine depending who logs in each day and at what time. If everyone from a 60/40 server logs in at the same exact time every day, then no, that’s not too good. Could be more Alliance log in during primetime compared to Horde, making it maybe 45/55 or 48/52, which isn’t that bad. Only Blizzard has that exact info.

of people that have come back. WoD had 10 friggin MILLION subs. do you honestly think classic had that many?

They should let all the oblivious carebears move to a PvE server ASAP so that we don’t have to deal with all the salt, tears and unwarranted changes.

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This isn’t really fair. The people opposed to transfers have some valid points. I just think that the benefits for the game as a whole outweigh the drawbacks.

I think there is a problem where their are a lot of players with little to no interest in pvp even though they are on a pvp server. The balance could be 50/50, but a bunch of people not participating makes it feel like 60/40 or worse. I’m stuck on a pvp server with 0 kills and a strong desire to move to a pve server.