Yeah, the elven town hall building in Lor’danel is still completely intact! It just… kills everything it touches. 
The only branch of the high elven military, I’m afraid 
Hmm, methinks we need to tweak a strain attuned to minerals (and possibly titan constructs). And old gods while we’re at it.
Now, now my life challenged friend. Why don’t you lay down, rest a bit and take a vacation to the shadowlands. See the sights, take a load off from all this hard work of destroying the planet.
That would be a terrible idea! It took almost 20 years for you guys to develop the Blight, imagine the research funding that would cost!
… you sound like a goblin.
Only if you get Baine to lower me into the coffin, just so he can let me down one more time.
I need a lot of gold to help rebuild the Kaldorei Empire for my buddies. 
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That’s easy to fix. We get rid of the goblin contractors and just help each other.
I like the way you think… think we can take all their gold too?
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Sure, we can melt it down for art and stuff.
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From what I gathered from questing the Night Elves that accepted the rez felt their god had betrayed them and were not too pleased about it. Even the woman there that was pretty high up in the ranks of whatever cult that is ranted a bit during the scenario.
If this is how seriously people take the lore, no wonder they get away with travesties like this.
Actually I take the lore fairly seriously in most cases. However when the story doesn’t really seem “right” how can I take it too seriously? I’d really doubt those Night Elves would have turned their back on their gods that easily. But who really knows, maybe some people would.
All elves are connected to nature of course. I agree. The point was that “rangers” as a class in game were never fleshed out fully following the RTS. In the RTS, there were no “hunter” units. All units were combat units. Therefore the focus on High Elves as Rangers was primarily in telling the story of what happened AFTER the great war when the High Elves and Night Elves split and the High Elves developed a cadre of elite warriors called “Rangers” primarily made up by farstriders. That is where the Windrunner family originates and that was the original Lore in the RTS. That is why they are called Ranger General of Silvermoon meaning it is something unique to High Elves/Blood Elves based on their history. That is how you got Sylvanas Windrunner and all the Windrunner Sisters in the game to begin. They never added a “Ranger” class in WOW but kept the name in order to tie in the the lore of the RTS. And now they are watering it down to shoehorn Night Elves with their own unique class called Sentinels into it. If anything undead sentinels should be “dark sentinels”.
What I am saying is that if “ranger” is just a label and anybody can be one then there is no point in using the term. If the lore that already exists that you guys claim doesn’t matter and doesn’t count contradicts that then this means it is a retcon in order to shoehorn something into the game. That’s all.
If any old elf and any old race that can shoot bows can be a dark ranger then they are watering down the lore to the point where it is meaningless. As in, just from dying you instantly become a ranger and it doesn’t matter what you did in life. Whereas previously being a ranger was a distinction based on a lifetime of training in very specialized abilities to a high level of proficiency. That is the difference between an Army Ranger and any old army soldier. To be a Ranger implies more training and more focus on specialized skills than the average soldier and that has always been the meaning of it in any high fantasy setting.
And if ranger means nothing, which is what most of you guys are arguing, then why not make Delaryn a “Dark Sentinel”. That makes way more sense than Dark Ranger.
This isn’t about what could be and why, it is about the fact that previously Blizz pretty clearly in the lore made Rangers out to be more than simple garden variety hunters.
And the overall point was if they can mangle the lore so badly on that, something that even had three prominent sisters in the same family, The Windrunners, who were famous for being rangers as something that is meaningless then of course they can make the idea of someone turning against their own just as meaningless and trivial as well. The two go together.
It’s a title, not a class points at Nathy
Yep.
“Everyone can be this occupation if they try so this occupation doesn’t get a name”… is not how language works.
No, because it’s just a title. I title that you seem to have built a mountain to that isn’t holding up to inspection.
Please cite your sources that show people instantly becoming skilled with the bow in death when they weren’t in life. All Dark Rangers thus far have been drawn from those that were skilled in archery, combat, and stealth while they were still living. So, receipts please for this claim you keep making.
And absolutely nothing thus far disputes that.
No, we are a pointing out it’s a title, not something innate or a state of being. You train to be a Ranger, you’re not genetically born one. Because it’s a title.
Yep, which they got to be by training, not genetics.
Sure, they could have but these specific troops serving under Sylvanas carry the title of Dark Ranger, so they used that title.
Hunters and rangers are essentially the same thing. It’s also a title used in game typically referring to those with the skillset of a hunter/ranger.
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That idiot has single-handedly destroyed what little interest I had left for the story in this game.
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No, nonono. Sentinels are a cross between rogues, hunters, and warriors if you want to talk in-game class distinctions. The Sentinel Army isn’t just some women wielding warglaives. It’s an army. It has different specializations.
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…leaving aside DKs, DHs and warlocks, of course!
Pours a cup of Irish Breakfast Tea
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To be fair to Danuser I think this quote is being misinterpreted given the context of the rest of the talk. Most people regard the books when they read them as, this is absolute fact because the book said it happened this way. But books are most often written from a perspective just like in history. That perspective may be 100% factual, it may be flawed, or it could be entirely wrong. Any good fantasy author can tell you that things in lore are sometimes just that, lore. Sometimes what we view as a retcon isn’t really a retcon. We are seeing a different aspect to the story, a different perspective.
Sometimes what we read happened is not what happened and earlier conjecture into the why something did or did not happen may not be accurate at all.