Why are there no tier sets in BFA?

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Hello, all I have been playing WOW since Wrath and have leveled every class to max besides a priest and druid. With that being stated I have to wonder if anyone else is extremely disappointed there are no tier sets in BFA? Yes, I understand there are Warfront sets but is it really that cool for example to see a DK, Warrior, and Paladin all with the same exact armor sets and so on and so forth for other armor types? The exact same can be said about the Uldir armor sets too. Oh, wow how exciting to have all my plate, mail, leather, and cloth characters all end up with the same armor. When Blizzard announced, there would be no tier sets I personally was shocked and very disappointed.

Tier sets have always been one of my most favorite things about WOW, and I always look forward to seeing what new, cool and creative armor Blizzard can come up with for each class. Every expansion I’ve always made it my mission to pick a new tier armor set for one of my characters and then pursue getting it. I know Blizzard stated they were getting rid of tier sets to focus on other areas, but I think we as the player base can mostly agree the results have been rather lackluster.

This post might be a little late and, Yes I understand transmog is a thing, but I would still like to see unique class armor tiers in hopefully future patch’s or sadly the next expansion. I still love the game and will probably play it as long as it keeps going, but this is just my opinion.

What are your guy’s thoughts on this?
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I don't like tier sets because you're relying on the RNG to get all the items - before the RNG starts giving you non-tier piecemeal upgrades that break sets.

EDIT: I should clarify on this. I love tier sets in terms of appearances and xmogs. It's the set bonus thing I really hate.
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"Why are there no tier sets in BFA?"

Because azerite armor and laziness.

10/30/2018 09:31 AMPosted by Snowfox
I don't like tier sets because you're relying on the RNG to get all the items - before the RNG starts giving you non-tier piecemeal upgrades that break sets.


Yes, because azerite armor is so rng independent...
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10/30/2018 09:37 AMPosted by Lannik
"Why are there no tier sets in BFA?"

Because azerite armor and laziness.

10/30/2018 09:31 AMPosted by Snowfox
I don't like tier sets because you're relying on the RNG to get all the items - before the RNG starts giving you non-tier piecemeal upgrades that break sets.


Yes, because azerite armor is so rng independent...

Oh, well "I dont like tier sets"

.. but I full on HATE azerite gear.
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The removal of tier sets, even on just a cosmetic level, took away most of my desire to raid. Azerite armor took the rest of the desire away.
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Because Blizzzard wanted to save time and money by not having to create tier sets.
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Because azerite armor is tier sets.
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Budget cuts

It'll cost you a tier set
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10/30/2018 09:42 AMPosted by Jagdtiger
Because Blizzzard wanted to save time and money by not having to create tier sets.

Well, they created the art and pieces - we have Uldir sets and 7th legion.

.. they just didn't give them set bonuses. That's kind of a minor coding part.
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10/30/2018 09:41 AMPosted by Smadinker
The removal of tier sets, even on just a cosmetic level, took away most of my desire to raid. Azerite armor took the rest of the desire away.


I feel the same way. I have only raided to get ilvl up and for quest purposes.
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Balancing issues.

In Legion, some classes tier sets were extremely powerful while others were lackluster.

I remember resto druid t19 being stronger than t20, even with the ~20 ilvl overall difference.
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Because rng is lazy development.
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10/30/2018 09:43 AMPosted by Kenshimoo
Because azerite armor is tier sets.


But worse xD
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Azerite armor became the new tier sets. It's like artifact power on your entire body now almost. I miss tier. Legion tier is beautiful if you are wanting some nice mogs.
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10/30/2018 09:45 AMPosted by Hateoraid
Balancing issues.

In Legion, some classes tier sets were extremely powerful while others were lackluster.

I remember resto druid t19 being stronger than t20, even with the ~20 ilvl overall difference.


That's not a tier set issue, that's bad development.
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I am going to go with freeing up the art department for other projects like the new Goblin and Worgen models and then all the Heritage armor sets.

That is a maybe until confirmation at Blizz-con.
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Removing tier sets was actually not terrible in my opinion. Sometimes you had to hold onto a normal (or LFR) piece even if you had a 60 point upgrade in your bags, simply because the set bonus was so good (the 4 set bonus from ToS for shadow priests for example was more powerful than most gear from ALL of Antorus except for at the very highest percentage points, so wearing a ToS set for a Mythic Argus kill was not a fun experience imo).

Also it was not uncommon for your tier set, that often felt mandatory, to have stats you didn't like. It felt horrible to equip a piece of gear with a secondary stat you hated, simply to have a tier bonus.

Trinkets that give bonuses like that would be nice, but for it to take up 4 slots is not rewarding in my experience.

Also as a side note, I agree with most of the people that say the new gear looks terrible. I don't think losing tier sets was responsible for that, I just think a lot of people have different views on what looks good and what doesn't, that's what transmog is for.

Edit: For those saying balancing the tier bonuses is bad development. You can't have good feeling tier set bonuses that are powerful, then just make the next set even MORE powerful every tier. Damage is already hard to tune, adding in extra stuff that would lead to power spiraling out of control near the end of the expansion just because "tier sets" doesn't help. A solution to this would be to nerf the old tier sets when the new ones came out, but look at how people reacted to that in Nighthold, losing the 4 free voidbolts for shadow just because a new tier set came out made me dislike tier sets even MORE.
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10/30/2018 09:46 AMPosted by Arizaria
Legion tier is beautiful if you are wanting some nice mogs.

I mean there's constant pugs of 120's still heading to Antorus, Tomb, Nighthold, and Emerald Nightmare. Normal, heroic, mythic... Tons of player still running that content.

There's a valuable lesson there for Blizzard - in what makes players keep going back to old instances.

Players won't be returning to Uldir next expansion for azerite traits, I know that!
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10/30/2018 09:48 AMPosted by Smadinker
10/30/2018 09:45 AMPosted by Hateoraid
Balancing issues.

In Legion, some classes tier sets were extremely powerful while others were lackluster.

I remember resto druid t19 being stronger than t20, even with the ~20 ilvl overall difference.


That's not a tier set issue, that's bad development.


It is definitionally a tier set issue. What?
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Blizzard serverly underestimates how much it’s player base likes customization. Not only do we STILL have very limited character customization, they also took away class sets (tier sets.) Simply because they figured everyone transmogs over it anyways. Unaware that we still want new class sets even if a newer one might not be our favorite.

apparently the figures we would rather have a set based on the raid itself and not our class anymore...

Idk about others, but seeing a new class tier set was always one of my favorite things about a new raid.