Not me, im the most highly regarded member of this community.
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crud you got a 90 horde rogue?
Name: Sohsuh
On last boss heroic hopefully down him tomorrow.
nice good luck if you can kill H elegon you can do H emp!
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I like the last boss as melee it reminds me of Dark Souls.
Last boss as melee is great if you can do the dance you can pump!
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You got a 100 going on the last boss you filthy animal.
Its normal! Hopefully going to start heroic prog next week! Iâm playing with people I played with in the end of SoD. Got alot of learning to do but its a solid group all around Iâm probably going to start GDKPs next week. Just donât have motivation to finish leveling and gearing toons right now!
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Oh nice thatâs cool. The raid is really fun I am loving it actually.
Donât say GDKP around here though Ripsod will appear out of the shadows and slither into the thread.
Lawl doesnât she have like multiple companies to run?
Itâs funny she was mad the other day whining about how my parses donât count and this and that because Iâm not playing the âMetaâ Spec.
Yeah he also said heâs sponsored LOL.
What a storyteller.
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100% they tried to say they could out parse me! But wont post the logs!
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Got em. 6/6 heroic hell yeah!
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IMO they are not even heroic, just half the difficulty of a level cap dungeonâŚ
Now you know why I get kicked out of dungeons in RDFâŚ
Because I donât tolerate that behavior.
Tanks and DPS arenât pulling that crap on me.
Thatâs really why all this toxic behavior existsâŚ
People tolerate it because the completion of the dungeon/raid/PvE-content is on the line for them and they let it happen, even going along with it by accepting the vote-kick without bothering to get the correct picture.
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Minimum item level for entry to RDF heroic. Que normals if unsure about role. No one checks with tank before pulling extra or just running ahead. Why hand held so much?
Chiming in as a healer, itâs very frustrating as a Disc Priest to try and heal a tank who is speed running as Iâm zoning in. They pull and LOS around corners like no tomorrow. I can chase them with feather but if they are too far ahead itâs rough getting him (and the dps who got aggro along the way) healed up.
Iâve had tanks run straight to boss with all ads in tow and whipe because by the time heals (and dps) has caught up the tank has lost so much health that itâs impossible to heal him back up, especially with the amount of mob damage thatâs still going out.
Iâve also seen tanks pull bosses after exhausting healer mana by kiting all of the trash to boss. Most tanks donât even pay attention to healer mana, let alone the fact that dps is dying to the parts of the mob that the tank didnât aggro.
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Iâll be honest, as long as they donât die I vastly prefer that compared to the slow methodical tanks. Like those slow tanks are fine they can go at whatever pace they want, but a part of me resents them; their health is never dropping below 95% and theyâre still treating every pack like a raid boss. The tanks that get the dungeon done as fast as possible are so lovely I love them
Most people arenât trying to spend forever in dungeons theyâve run a million times. Canât understand why youâd be opposed to doing them faster.
Thatâs Not the Problem, Itâs Execution
If youâre zoning in and the tank is already pulling, thatâs a coordination issue not a tanking one. Join the group, buff, and communicate. If youâre not ready, say so. But blaming the tank for moving efficiently while youâre AFK or slow to react? Thatâs on you.
hatâs called positioning. Tanks use LOS pulls to group mobs and reduce incoming damage. Itâs a skill, not a flaw. If youâre struggling to keep up, use your tools:
- Power Word: Shield preemptively
- Angelic Feather smartly
- Leap of Faith if needed
Disc Priests have mobility and preemptive healing. Use them.
Thatâs a DPS problem, not a tank problem.
- DPS should wait for mobs to be grouped before AoEing.
- If they face-pull or pad meters early, theyâre responsible for their own deaths.
- Tanks arenât babysitters theyâre strategists. If DPS ignore mechanics, they pay the price.
Then speak up. If your mana is low, say so. Most tanks will wait if you communicate. If you donât, and they pull, thatâs a breakdown in group coordination not tank abuse.
Also, tanks in MoP Classic have:
- Self-heals (Death Strike, Word of Glory, etc.)
- Cooldowns (Shield Wall, Barkskin, etc.)
- Mobility tools to kite and mitigate damage
Many tanks can solo packs if played correctly. If they die, itâs either poor cooldown usage or lack of support not an indictment of speed-pulling.
These Dungeons Arenât Hard. itâs just bad players such as yourself that make them hard!
MoP heroics are tuned for speed and efficiency. The only thing that makes them difficult is:
- DPS pulling early
- Healers not managing mana
- Tanks ignoring cooldowns
If everyone plays their role, these dungeons fly by. If youâre wiping, itâs not because the tank pulled fast itâs because the group failed to execute.
Donât blame tanks for playing efficiently. Blame poor communication, bad DPS habits, and lack of awareness. If you want slow, methodical pulls, speak up. But donât cry âabuseâ when the tank plays to the strengths of the dungeon and expects the group to keep up.
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