Why are shadow priests even in the game?

Mages, warlocks, and balance druids bring FAR more utility to the table. Mages and warlocks humiliate shadow in terms of damage output and versatility, and balance has far more flexibility.

"What about that one fight"? "What about mass dispel and fortitude"? Come on... it's almost meaningless in the "scheme" of things.

It's honestly frustrating the spec even exists. Baiting suckers like me into playing. All well and good if you do the odd heroic dungeon and LFR, but **** does it suck if you want to enjoy the more difficult stuff.
It exists for the sake of flavor. People like to play the spec. My question to you is what would you like to see spriest bring to the table to be on par with the others?
11/05/2018 12:04 AMPosted by Sevaira
It exists for the sake of flavor. People like to play the spec. My question to you is what would you like to see spriest bring to the table to be on par with the others?


Mana.
11/05/2018 12:07 AMPosted by Donoman
11/05/2018 12:04 AMPosted by Sevaira
It exists for the sake of flavor. People like to play the spec. My question to you is what would you like to see spriest bring to the table to be on par with the others?


Mana.


Like they need to have more of it? Or do you want them to play like fire and frost in that they really do not have a resource? I really do not play spriest so I am ignorant on the subject of them.
11/05/2018 12:07 AMPosted by Donoman
11/05/2018 12:04 AMPosted by Sevaira
It exists for the sake of flavor. People like to play the spec. My question to you is what would you like to see spriest bring to the table to be on par with the others?


Mana.


Wouldn't make sense, because spriests draw power from the void itself, magical energy. It's like making a magic class that's themed around "fel" energy and giving them mana...you simply can't.
I was just trying to be funny. Shadow was desired back in Burning Crusade because our dps gave mana to healers.

On a serious note, Voidform needs to go. All of shadow' s problems stem from this horrible mechanic. Get rid of it so we can repair the damage it's done to the entire class.
Because at that time, they had to add in a dps spec or the Priest class would be purely for healing, which is gonna be tough for questing and leveling.

Now, if shadow priest can do as much dps then you'll probably see similar threads like this: "Why are mages/warlocks even in the game when spriests can have the flexibility of changing to a healing spec."

I dunno lol
11/05/2018 12:16 AMPosted by Donoman
I was just trying to be funny. Shadow was desired back in Burning Crusade because our dps gave mana to healers.


So maybe they could use a utility like this to help with that uniqueness? It is not outside their them really, priests in general are healers or those that aid, they are thematically supporters so giving them more support utility would probably help their desirability.
I would like shadow to do more shadowy things and less warlocky things
He has a point though,
why are so many specs in the gutter?
whats the point of a fartsman hunter?
shadow priest?
sub rogue?
theres no reason for them to exist right now.
Shadow giving mana to the group would be amazing. Priest dps spec that helps healers whilst dealing damage, sounds like a perfect niche
CC. like, rogue-levels of cc. not this freeze'em in-place stuff mages have. Spriest need hard cc... and tentacles.. and shadow orbs.. and i dunno.. flocks of ravens that pop out of the shadow-magic.
i have a spriest and before BfA it was good - i actually preferred it to the mage BUT now its like playing …. - no power nothing - it was really horrible to level in BfA i got it to 120 level but let me tell you i felt like deleting the toon - o kept going because its my only engineer
Shadow is in a rough spot, right now, and the design team has acknowledged that. Changes will come.

If you play long enough, you'll see this happen to almost every spec you play. I was away from my old Rogue main for so long during a break that, coming back, I had to start a new one to re-learn the class!

It sucks to have it happen when you were happy with where your spec was, but in this case, I know Shadow is in line for some help soon.
The problem with returning mana is it's a must have if your healers are running out of mana, but worthless if they're not.

Some form of unique utility would be great though.
Make it so that spriest restore mana but if you are full it gives hp
Yup I don't like Shadow either I just quest in holy lol
they are supposed to have mind powers and stuff, they need more of that
more cc, dots with negative status effects, stuff like that
They didn't want to make a ranged light caster dps because that would be too cool
11/05/2018 01:00 AMPosted by Syridis
Make it so that spriest restore mana but if you are full it gives hp


If the healers are at full mana it means they're not casting which means everyone is at full HP.