I play a paladin, supposedly a really good pvp class but Rogues keep me away from PVP. There just isn’t much I can do, they seem to have near unlimited stuns and if I do get them down they just stealth away again and wait it out until their cooldowns are up. Am I the only one? am I just sucking? They seem totally broken
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No your not the only one, rogue is a really tough kill with all there CDs and they can do some crazy damage on open.
I can tell you the best success I’ve had vs a rogue is to stun them during evasion, bop only blind and trinket there kidney and push as hard as you to get there vanish. Also remember to heal every chance you can to keep yourself topped off. Drop consecration to try and catch them before they open. I hope this will help you a bit. 
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You cannot beat rogues that are above a certain threshold of skill as a paladin unless you get lucky and 1-shot them. Not with the amount of cooldowns and utility they have. Even if you used zero cooldowns in their opener and miraculously got healed to 100% hp you will not beat them. BoP/bubble just have too long of cooldown, and they have answers to HoJ and blinding light/repentance. They will always be able to eventually catch you with no cooldowns at which point you will just die. I’d recommend not worrying about it and just accept the fact. I dueled a rogue for like 6 hours straight because we wanted to learn how to fight each other and both of us concluded the same thing after many variations of actions you can take. My suggestion: bubble hearth or run
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^You sound like someone who plays rogue lol.
I main a rogue but been playing ret a lot lately and I believe you’re wrong.
Out of stealth rogue damage is strong, but that’s it.
As a pally you have blessing of sanct… Bubble, lay on hands, wog and some of the strongest burst in the game right now… My pally is 178ilvl and I just made skid marks of this rogue with 36k hp in temple just a few minutes ago.
With all cds they are strong but they can’t become invincible to damage with said cds and still beat your bum like a plly can.
Honestly probably a lot of l2 play deals here.
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BGs where people have most likely used their cooldowns isn’t a very good analogue to the world pvp that is implied by the original poster, and I’m also still extremely skeptical of your 178 ilvl vs 36k rogue because that implies they are in at least challenger-rival level gear or around 210-215 ilvl. If that rogue was even at his keyboard he should kill you in a cheapshot… this isn’t an OP contest I already think paladin is more OP. But they will not win in world PvP.
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Lol… imagine the state of Shamans wrt Rogues . Our only defensive can’t be used in a stun . Nothing more to say .
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They are and have always been broken
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Rogues win because they can reset fights. Only a select few specs can do that, and it allows them to get your CDs, reset, then move in and kill you when you’re defenseless.
But if they lost their resets and only had 1 opener, they’d be absolute trash. It’s a weird balance
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Disagree, if made the Rogue need to play tactfully instead of just get the target to trinket Cheapshot blind reset and kill them!
Thats damn Kyrian Phial allowing them to remove bleeds, diseases, curses, poisons etc is just vile and give Rogues a massive advantage. IN the past If I got a hit off, or a rend on the Rogue before he blinds me I had a chance. Now its impossible!
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Have you noticed the tempo is different from BFA in PvP? It’s a-la-Legion speed now.
Imagine having 30% versa and dying in a cheap shot vs a rogue 10 ilvls lower and 12% less versa.
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You’d think DH’s would counter rogues because they have that reveal stealth vision. Seems like they’re supposed to counter stealth classes.
We were until this expac lol
Rogues aren’t OP, literally everything breaks us out of stealth and there’s classes that deal more burst consistently than us.
Are we good at 1v1? Yea ofc, class is designed around that but the game isn’t which is why nothing else is balanced around 1v1 duels.
In 2s/3s we’re limited to 1 or 2 comps and outside of Shadow Dance, we don’t really do any dps besides utility which believe it or not takes really good timing to pull off consistently against good players.
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Rets/windwalkers/ and ferals should beat rogues in 1v1 just sayin 
Any class that can kill in a single global is OP and should be nerfed, Rogues, Rets, Boomies and Fire Mages.
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I agree that Boomies and Fire Mages should be deleted, but Sub Rogue honestly deserves a buff.
It’s the highest skill cap class in the game, we deserve it.
Do you know what a global is?
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WHAT? Rogues have been dumbed down and watered so much you don’t even need to pool energy or time cds! You gotta be fricking joking here!
Use to need to bait trinket and then kidney shot into a gouge, bandage up and pop a thistle tea and reset.
Now you just Cheap shot and kill the target, or cheapshot wait for trinket Blind them and then reset come back and cheapshot kill the target! GTFO with that BS!
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