nothing but a mouse was the key statement - I wasn’t talking about turning either
lets see you do that type of content when you are over 70 as well.
Wrong. You didn’t state that… You are clearly trolling… but fine. I’ll bite.
You said “Dragonriding is boring, annoying, and not worth it.” - sure, boring/annoying mean you don’t like it, stating that it’s “not worth it” insinuates regular flying is better. However, with little to no effort with DF, you can fly way faster. It’s faster. That is a fact. Just because you declare something not worth it, doesn’t make it so.
And the fact you find it both “boring” and “annoying”, indicate you are doing it wrong.
Ofc people can like different stuff, but how you are explaining it. It’s literally a skill issue.
Come on now… We all know they are going to release regular flying eventually, and without pathfinder rofl. Dragongriding was a selling point for DF so ofc they are going to push it.
So you’d rather have no flying vs dragonriding just because you don’t like it?
The funny thing is… Dragonriding takes so little skill. It’s more so… are you even trying to be better? Just a small amount of effort and you just won’t suck.
Thus… if it’s boring, you are doing something wrong. If you are stuck on the ground… you are doing something wrong.
Imagine using being good at dragonriding a “touch grass” moment 
I’d hate to see your other aspects of gameplay if you can compare dragonriding to that.
Here’s the thing. I don’t want to fly faster. You think it’s better because it’s faster? Fine. Cool. But not everyone wants to go faster. Does that make sense? Do you understand that people don’t have to like things you find fun yet?
I don’t like the momentum mechanics. I don’t like constantly gliding at a downward angle. I don’t like the speed. I don’t find it fun. I have all the unlocks and glyphs. I never run out of vigor. It’s just not fun to me
Movement is just movement. It doesn’t need to be any more complicated than that IMO. If i wanted the dragonriding experience I’d play GW2 or dig my N64 out of a closet somewhere and play spyro. You can enjoy your dragonriding but not everyone does. Skill literally doesn’t matter if you hate doing it anyway. You can be good at something and hate doing it at the same time but you absolutely cling to “skill issue” as your gotcha defense
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since when is motion sickness doing something wrong. You dismiss people with handicaps as doing something wrong when they can’t physically do it. It is hard to use a mouse or keyboard when you are puking in a trash can. Yet you smart turds think you know it all. It is more fun to put people down than to understand that not everyone can just pick up and do dragon flying. I don’t care if you use dragon flying or not. But never tell me I suck because dragon flying makes me sick. Putting down people with handicaps isn’t a smart thing to do. And as the saying goes, what goes around comes around. The next time you need to get a token off the AH to pay for your sub just remember there won’t be anymore there from me. Merry Christmas jerks.
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See… Once you learn how to actually use DR, it IS better in every aspect other than just afking in the air.
The movement is better period. Being able to dive bomb when you are too high?
If you fly slightly below the horizon level. That is enough.
Taking off. Look straight up and ascend x2. Level out to the horizon, then slightly angle down.
You don’t have to keep an aggressive angle to maintain speed. And you should regen fast enough that if you do, you can just surge once to rebuff.
You say that until you are stuck grounded for 3/4’s of an expac, dealing with the awful terrain that was BFA/SL.
But that’s the point I am trying to hammer home. If we didn’t have DR right now, we’d be stuck on ground mounts.
Not necessarily. If you suck at something, you are definitely least likely to enjoy it.
I disliked DR on release. After getting a few upgrades, my opinion changed. After getting all the upgrades, I love it.
Once you figure out the mechanics and how easy it can be, it is highly enjoyable.
I suffer from motion sickness, but there are fixes.
The biggest fix is just zoom in. It removes a lot of the outside animations of “speed”.
Adjusting your DPI on your mouse. A higher dpi means a lower hand motion for people with arthritis. A lower dpi - wider hand motion make it easier for people that suffer from motion sickness.
Me. I zoom in and use high dpi. But… it’s easier to complain than try and find a solution.
actually it is easier to keep my money in my pocket or donate it to a worthy charity then give it to blizzard. Dragon flying isn’t the problem here. The toxicity of the community in the forums is. I’m just tired of hearing all the bashing of people with disabilities on here. Until you have lived in my shoes you can’t give me advice on what I should do. And I pray that you never have to suffer through my disabilities for a day for most of you couldn’t handle an hour of it let alone a day. Go back and enjoy your game. I’m done dealing with you all.
Plus talking to me about things to do with my mouse or computer you might as well be changing a diaper. I’m not computer literate and never have been. And I’m too old to try and be computer literate. Motion sickness isn’t my only handicap but I won’t go into it because it is none of your business. We all can’t be the top dog like you all seem to want to be. I used to just play for enjoyment. But blizzard the past two expansions have taken that joy away. And when there is no joy there is no reason to want to play the game, let alone pay for it.
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I don’t want to fly beneath the horizon level. I want to fly at a constant speed at the same altitude in a straight line indefinitely. I want to afk hover. I want to stop moving mid flight and just look at stuff. I don’t want to dive bomb. I don’t want the speed to fluctuate. It is more fun for me to be able to move with complete control over literally every aspect without any outside forces inhibiting my movement. That means zero gravity, zero momentum. Just A to B like the game has let us do with flying since BC. Is that clear enough for you?
Please refer to this:
Yeah. Played those too. Went through the pathfinder achievements. They should have let us use flying from the start. I am grounded right now for the foreseeable future because blizz hasn’t said when they will release old flying and they may very well just go back on their word and not release it if we don’t voice our desire to get it back. Just because you think it is fun does not mean everyone does. I have zero interest in a tedious minigame flight mode.
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See I have my own disabilities, but I don’t need to tell anyone. It’s also the forums. The loud toxic few. Most people in-game aren’t like this nor do the forums represent the majority of in-game players. And by talking on the forums, you are dealing with them willingly.
If you don’t want to hear it, just stay out of GD.
You can be as “top dog” as you want to be. I know many elderly players that don’t use their age or disabilities as a crutch. Great players and great people.
You just sound disgruntled at blizzard, not necessarily me or the forums if I am being blunt.
Tbh I was being nice in my last post, but shesh. What I get for backing off and trying to be civil lol.
You can’t right now. You can either use your dragon or old school ground mount.
And again it sounds like you don’t want change at all and you don’t want to try and get used to it.
I agree, but from the company stand point, it doesn’t make sense. DR was one of the selling points for DF. It makes sense as to why they are pushing it.
I doubt that. I would put money its going to be released next season. 10.2 at the latest. But yea, it’s way too early for it to be released.
Honestly I just don’t care if other people don’t find it ‘not fun’. The amount of people that like it way out number the people that don’t. Most don’t like it for silly reasons. I’ve seen so many crying threads about it, I wish mods would just mute them for being so silly.
Now if they could formulate a thread like:
Sure, I’d be more understanding. But most are just absolute incoherent crying.
I’ve logged in and played 15 minutes over the last two weeks. I spent that 15 minutes puking into a trash can. There just isn’t anything with DF that inspires me to play. Dragon riding may of been a big selling point for some but not for me. After all in 10 years of playing I rarely use a mount of any type. But when I spend time doing the pre-patch for gear catch up. Nice 252 level gear and then my first gear drop is 226 it is like going through SL all over again. Great no real gains in gear until I reach at least level 65. So there is no incentive for me to even do the quests or play. There is no sense of achievement. And I don’t consider learning how to ride a dragon an achievement. Especially when I never cared about dragon riding to begin with.
I agree with this…they would certainly support the functionality, albeit without the special barrel-roll and dive animations.
I’m going to hazard a guess “a-no”, since she’s also one of those people who think Dragonriding is the only thing that is a change in DF and just ignoring practically everything else in DF that people are actually okay with.
Ehh, personally, i can’t say it’s boring, annoying and worthless. At worst it’s just mid. It does what it does on the tin and nothing else.
I do agree there should be both.
I know you’re talking to her, but i’m throwing my two cents whether you don’t like it, or don’t like it.
After Golding all the races to get the title (And i’ve posted a photo of that achievement i got here, because the Armory is being a big smelly goldfish atm), i can safely say i objectively disagree with that and that Dragonriding is only good for speed, just okay at everything else at worst. Not terrible, just fine. I can see the advantages for both.
Mate, i suck at almost every video game i play and i still enjoy the hell out them. Being the most recent addition is Resident Evil 4, the best Christmas game Capcom has ever made. I died and save scum a lot in games, and the same is said here, as well being terrible at inventory management (I have more bullets then health that i had to actually sell some of bullets), but hot darn, this is refreshing to play and enjoyable. And i keep on pressing on, despite the fact i know i’m going to be ganked hard because i’m the most unprepared person on this planet. Nobody told me there was bingo!
Tangent aside, She said this… 
It’s almost like learning how to use something, doesn’t always magically change your opinion on it. 
So… reducing your visual awareness to a bumper cam to make it harder to navigate then. Why don’t ya tell them to turn on motion blur and cap FPS at 25 fps while you’re at it? 
/s
…So spend money on a solution? 
I mean, this can’t always be the go to solution here.
Preach. 
Well rest assured that the controls for Dragonriding isn’t that bad, because for starters, you’re not using an n64 controller. You’re using a mouse. (And no offense to those who grew up with the N64 controllers, but i don’t know how you guys do it)
And plus unlike that game, missing a ring is super forgiving, given how quickly you can start over.
Tbh, they should be concerned about that subset of the community, because they seem to ruin more of the game then the supposed “haters” does. Toxic positivity has been a bigger problem then just plain toxicity for like a good part of the gaming community, and to some extent, in civilized society, where it’s ties can be pointed back to politics, but that’s a different story.
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You aren’t zooming in all the way…
Just a few clicks is more than enough to remove most of the visual “speed”, or you can use silly examples like lower fps to try to prove your over exaggerated point lol.
Settings =/= money
Hell even windows has a default setting built in to adjust your speed. Another exaggerated point…
i’m fine with dragonriding why should i pay for a game besides i get quesy as crap using it yes this what i want in my game flying that makes me quesy. i done ground mounted thru twice in dragonflight basically did pathfinder twice so where’s my flying blizz? heck i even walk around alot but when i do want to want fly i don’t want flying that makes me half sick good job blizz. and for all the ones that say well we got these settings and this and they why should i have to constantly use settings when i fly when the perfect flying is already in game once again good job blizz quit putting the middle finger up at us blizz and release it already.
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I mean… I tried it. Didn’t like it. Got the upgrades. Still didn’t like it. Now it’s been a few weeks and I still don’t like it. That’s sorta how it works. You don’t have to love everything you try. Sometimes you find out it doesn’t click with you.
Which is funny because I like all of the other selling points way, way more. The expac doesn’t live and die on dragonriding, there’s other things to like about it.
Then just release it. If you’re so confident everyone likes DR more and that it’s superior then it won’t change anything. See, here’s the difference. I do want you to keep dragonriding. Knock yourself out, friend. I also want other people to have fun.
Actually, you know what? Let’s go back to a point you made a few posts back:
You’re right! You’d absolutely hate it!! Which is great because I’m playing for me, not for you. I have never stepped foot in a M+ dungeon. Had friends and my own brother ask me to run with them and nah. Haven’t raided since WotLK. Not even LFR, tho I’m considering it now. Like, the way I play is probably incomprehensible for you, but I still play. And the thing is that I’ve been playing this whole time and it’s never negatively impacted you
I haven’t complained about those things because it doesn’t affect open world travel like DR does. I can ignore all the other stuff but this is in place of normal flying for now
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I just stopped caring about the complainers. They can sit in the forums QQing while the other 99% of us have fun zooming around on our drakes.
I can’t seem to get the Dragon Riding mount to hover. What’s the trick for that?
Because its a change and a lot of people are not fond of change. I play Guild Wars 2 and i’ve never seen anyone complain about the Griffon and Skyscale mechanics (which is what Dragon Riding is “loosely” based on).
But since WoW introduced a flyhack with no physics or meaningful gameplay 15 years ago (to be fair, probably the best they could do at the time), people don’t want to lose it even for something that has actual gameplay value.
I do think dragon riding could use more customization option though, like being able to “spec” for more energy at the cost of speed to help people who think its too hard to control or things like that.
To you. Actual gameplay value to you. It has zero gameplay value to me.
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Not just me, its pretty obvious flying has been a headache from a game design perspective for Blizzard for the longest time, hence all the contrived restrictions they always end up putting on it just so people don’t literally avoid all the content they work on.
Talents - they are PRETTY much the same your literally thinking too hard on that subject you got a small handful of changes like you ALWAYS do when it comes to buffs/nerfs. literally all most people are doing is picking the route that offers the most for whatever content they are doing be it DPS or utlity for pvp or w.e. only thing it has changed is rotation and that is slightly we still got the same ole rotations for the most part.
Grand Hunts- they literally are just dailies and idk about you but they go down fast especially with lots of people with WM off contributing to them. again you are making something bigger outta nothing.
New Class - again as stated it’s not mandatory to play it is new yes but not mandatory; why i say mandatory? because you suggested New class like everyone actually enjoys the new playstyles ( new to them give or take you play other mmorpg’s ) like i said i’ve played other mmorpg’s where the evokers play pretty much the same way so the style really isn’t new to me at all and thus how i KNEW i wouldn’t like it. Did i try it? of course did i like it? no. may play it down the line sure but as an alt to mess around with or farm stuff but thats about it. not gonna bother farming gear for it.
In the end sounds to me like your just @me just to complain tbh. As stated above if you don’t like Dragon Riding then either come to terms with it; wait until they introduce regular flying with it’s cons to dragon riding or simply quit the game if it is that much of a deal breaker for you. Concept of Dragon Riding literally isn’t that hard to grasp and as MANY have already stated with glyphs it does get better and glyphs ARE account bound. Doesn’t mean it is perfect it is simply a new mechanic to the expansion; the concept of dragon riding is NOT new btw. Again as stated by many in other threads it literally works just like flying a plane or i guess in this case a glider since planes mostly come with engines; even gliders come with engines if you want.