Why are people so obsessed with Hunter being melee?

[Bepples-barthilas]

@Bullwinkles-area-52

You mean like how you ignored the fact WoW is still the 900 pound gorilla when it comes to mmo’s? Or do you mean a game that is near two decades old has lost players over time, hot take that one.

You know two things can be simultaneously true: WoW can still be the biggest MMO while also having drastically declined from its peak. There’s not exactly much compelling competition in the genre. It’s not an excuse for ignoring and excusing WoW mistakes.

@Ogdenir-alleria

Youtube personalities are just same as forum posters as they both want attention. Even if it negative as ragebait can get even more views. You don’t even need to back up your claims as long as it hooked someone.

The videos I linked absolutely backed up their claims.

Categorically dismissing all WoW youtubers and their stances is snobbery.

@Ogdenir-alleria

I was posting what was stated by Ion why even if Survival Hunters started to see range abilities returning it would still remain a melee spec. I then just restated it in my own words. My argument was not about if I agreed on this that I only want to acknowledge why range Survival would never be brought back. Even though I do not believe in what Ion reasons were.

Then you need to point out that it’s his opinions and that they’re incorrect. It doesn’t do any good to just repost them as if they’re fact.

@Ogdenir-alleria

Blizzard is a business and it is always about money first. WoD was the last time Blizzard showed subnumbers and they had lost huge numbers. They needed new blood and were willing to take risks if it gave a gain.

As you have even quoted Survival was designed to appeal to a niche group of poeple. New players and those who were on the line about returning. Blizzard was leaning on that melee would be enough of an appeal to get more poeple involved with the next expansion.

Where to even begin?

Survival is one spec of one class. It was totally absent from any Legion marketing material because it was that minor in the grand scheme of things. The centre of the marketing for Legion was Demon Hunter. THAT is the “out of the box risk” you have in mind. Not Survival.

The amount of new players who would potentially join the game just for Survival can’t ever be quantified, but given the extreme lack of appeal of the concept within the game (a fact that was obvious well before they did it) there’s not a chance it was ever going to be a hook for new players.

You are trying to give a profound economic-based take but your understanding of how much economic influence melee Survival of all things has is totally separate from reality.

@Ogdenir-alleria

Even if they lost older players they had classic coming, and with classic Survival also returning would just recuperate those losts with older players shifting over.

As of 2015, when the decision was announced, Classic was still a long way off and possibly not decided upon yet.

@Ogdenir-alleria

Even all this rage about the switch to melee has only helped out Survival. With all this posting about how unappealing melee is has interested some into actually trying Survival just to see if it true, or they just play it to come back to make troll posts.

“All publicity is good publicity” is shaky logic to begin with, and it’s especially farcical for melee SV which is still just as unpopular as it’s always been.

Here’s some advice: stop trying to play the devil’s advocate on melee SV’s behalf. You’re not good at it.