You got that few whispers? Damn, you must be damn lucky.
Terrible solution. This is a MMO, not a singleplayer game - Blizzard wants you to play the game for as long as possible, and the game is designed around that.
They were planning on selling you that loot for hundreds of thousands of gold. If they earn enough gold selling loot they rolled on solely to sell, they won’t have to work a day job anymore.
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The solution is to stop pugging. Stop thinking you lost an item and start thinking your group won one, and you’ll feel much better.
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Solution. LFR Should not drop loot. LFR should Drop LFR currency. The LFR Currency can be used to by LFR gear off Vendors. Killing the boss on LFR unlocks its loot table on the vendors. 3 Boss Kills = Enough currency for 1 piece of loot. You can only earn currency from each boss 1 time per week.
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I have heard this time and time again but… here’s one problem:
Why shouldn’t they be allowed to do what they want with their own loot? Why are you trying to dictate what they can or can’t do with their loot?
Most of the time when folks say more than just “a random dude totally did this”, it is usually with the additional context of others offering to buy it. So, somehow, I get the feeling it is more about what other people are willing to do to get the item - not so much what the guy who gets the item is doing.
Regardless, it is their loot. They can do with it as they please.
I sincerely don’t get why ya’ll are so incredibly mad about this. Here’s the situation:
They won the loot, they got their own loot, they’ll now either use their own loot or they won’t. If folks are asking to buy the item from them or they say that they are willing to sell it, congratulations! You lost the roll but now have another opportunity to get it, if you want to. Otherwise, nothing’s changed.
Deterministic loot from a source that many considers their only form of endgame content is both a good and a terrible idea. As a baseline, you’d essentially have to double the numbers you have there because one win =/= one guaranteed item. Folks gear up too quickly and now have nothing else to do. If folks want a system like this in place two things would have to change:
- No more vault for LFR content, because then you get access to too much loot.
- The limit would be on buyable items per week, not currency that you obtain. Which also has the downside that LFR players wouldn’t be able to make use of systems like the catalyst either, meaning that in current WoW folks using LFR would only ever see full tiers after maybe a month of working towards it.
Which, everyone can agree would be horrendous.
Like it or not, us players are rats looking for cheese. And the game is the maze. There has to be proportional rewards that are paced and placed correctly along the maze or else it ain’t fun for folks to get gear. Basically WoW would have to be redesigned the ground up in terms of how loot is obtained and viewed as in order for this to function.
Fully deterministic gear is available in the game right now through crafting orders. So, it already offers it. But pacing and to correctly limit the gear in such fashions were it still feels good to get gear is why there are limits in place. Only under very specific circumstances are gearing vendors good for endgame gearing and that’s when the gear itself isn’t a primary enjoyment of it (can still play a big role and thus’ be essential, but not the primary role).
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Wah
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It’s not just whispers in LFR that I hate, it’s whispers in general that I hate.
Why? Because usually the “Whisper” is a response to a question I had asked in the “1. General” chat channel in a zone. Does not matter what I had asked, there’s always some tool that thinks the answer should just be communicated privately. And it’s not some super secret private stuff that I inquire about, it’s just general stuff, so why the cloak and dagger?
Honestly, this mentality is actually a good one to have. Forming groups with people you play with regularly will alleviate the sting of not getting something. I raid with the same people every week, and I personally have gotten very loot this season so far. In 3 weeks of raiding, the only piece I’ve gotten is the curio off of Fyrakk once. Everything else I’ve gotten in M+, or through crafting.
But my guild mates are getting gear, and their improvement is improvement for our raid group and that makes the sting much less. Did I say in raid the other day "Man I wish I could get a piece, sure. Does that irritate me? Of course, I’m a human being. But it’s countered by the fact I had people in my ear going “Yeah, that’s nonsense, we’ll get you stuff though” and knowing I would do things with them later, and the fact they were getting pieces they needed means overall, it is a net positive for my group.
There is even a Dark Legacy page just about that
from https://darklegacycomics.com/708
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Personally, i love selecting greed, and only roll need if i actually do need it. Im not fond of trying to decide who to trade something to. Current model is much better than personal loot. I understand that selfish narcissistic individuals hate seeingbsomeone else win something. Im happy to see someone else win something. I find this whole debate rather telling.
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If i need it automatically equip it
this is the first expansion i’ve gotten world boss loot. there are world bosses in previous expansions that have never dropped anything for me on any of my characters!
Repeatedly annoying whispers about loot is one thing. But I can’t fathom being upset that a question I asked in a public channel was answered via a private whisper. So the text is a different color and the whole zone doesn’t see the reply. What’s the big deal?
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I can answer that with a personal anecdote. I was flying out of valdrakken and the question popped. I don’t have access to general/trade of valdrakken anymore. So I whisper.
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The whispers are irritating because I rolled need to use the item.
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I just disable whispers. People can whisper me whatever they want, I won’t see it though.
I don’t like those whispers because I win it fair and square, if I didn’t need it, I wouldn’t have rolled on it.
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I mean, that is certainly a possibility, but it usually happens to me when I am out in a questing zone like Zangarmarsh while leveling, not in a city’s chat zone.
(Disenchants)
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I don’t like the whispers, because there’s a lot of “I ran LFR 500 times and got 0 loot, you should give that to me because I’m so unlucky.”
Never mind I can’t trade it… just keep whispering and begging. It’s annoying.
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