I feel like if you earn them for a season, you should get the benefit of having them regardless of being on an alt or not. Not only that but if I want to play a different class each season im getting all these portals split between characters.
If I do get keystone hero, that achievement is account wide? Keystone master is account wide. The keystone master mount is account wide… why would portals not be?
Shoves Keystones into mudpuddle
You don’t always get what you want… that’s a new fancy mantra I hear lately. Regardless of your logic.
late to the party with this one. the MoP challenge mode portals were never account wide. I did that on like 5 or 6 toons at the time. I’d say it’s a nice reward for a specific character but it would take away from it if all your toons had it.
Yes but the days of MOP challenge modes were a lot different than the way the game is developed now forcing people into different meta specs season after season in order to even participate in m+.
Back in MOP you could pick your main and stick on it because there wasn’t infinite scaling content where community perception was everything for getting into it
Gotta agree with OP here. I got a handful of portals on this shaman and I wish I had them on my priest or my mage when I go to do Keys on them, and I did the work once already. I pushed my way through to 20s and I earned those portals. I should be able to make use of them for all my characters. Makes zero sense that every other reward for M+ is account wide BUT the portals.
Yeah, they really should be account wide.
It’s not like they are some kind of advantage, they are a convenience.
20s are so far away from needing meta specs people 4 man them.
Do you realize what percentage of the playerbase actually unlocks all the 20 portals in a season? I remember seeing stats on that in shadowlands and the % was super low like sub 5% if I remember correctly.
Let’s just say it’s only 10% of players. I don’t think it’s a stretch to expect that if you’re in that 10% that you’ve earned the portals and should be able to use them on alts.
I would also assume that a higher percentage of players were able to do MOP challenge modes compared to getting all 20 portals nowadays
But yes, you’re right you don’t need to be meta whatsoever as a good player to get your 20 portals. But if you play m+ as your primary mode and are pugging at that level, you’re going to have a far harder time than if you’re a shadow priest, fire mage or augvoker and that’s not even a debate
could prob do 20s pretty easily in 425-430 gear with non meta specs as long as you had a rez and lust. /shrug
that’s an opinion i don’t agree with. i actually don’t care a huge amount but decisions like “let’s make it take several minutes of flight to get to NL” make it a bit more irritating.
Yes and a good NHL player could tear it up in the OHL. But the majority of hockey players don’t make it to that level.
You’re trying to compare the top 5-10% of the playerbase to your typical average player who couldn’t even do a 20 on a meta spec
well, yeah, there should’ve just been a portal there instead of not relying on dalaran hearthstone. I don’t like doing NL for that reason as well. My warlock is a new toon and never picked up the flight path near the dungeon so I manually fly every time :\
but now that I’m thinking about it that’s the same as a keystone portal. the whole situation is silly.
i think it’s actually faster to port to azsuna. haven’t actually timed it but it feels faster than from either dal or CoS
It is very convenient to have the portals for the current pool of M+ dungeons. On one hand. Sure, earning them once on your main and enjoying quick M+ dungeon trips on alts would be cool. On the other hand, it probably also devalues them as a reward. You earn them once then stop caring. They can be a goal on alts within the current season beyond gear when it comes to running your weekly keys. “Oh, I don’t have an NL portal on this alt might look for 20+ NL’s while going about filling my vault”
I’m kinda leaning toward the direction of them being account wide. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to earn a set of portals on your main (lets say a Warrior) but then not have access to them on your alt that also happens to be a Warrior. It’s not like earning portals for a second time on another Warrior would provide a new experience or anything. Unlike an argument that could be made that earning the portals as a Priest or something else that isn’t a Warrior could be a significantly different experience.
A rather negative thing about the portals being, effectively, character bound is that down the line you feel like you are losing convenience if you swap characters, classes, or remake a character for any reason in later seasons/expansions/ or years down the line. Which I believe really shouldn’t be the case.
A middle ground would be to make the portals account wide after a season ends. So that the characters that earned them enjoy the benefits when they are most relevant but it’s not really a fully satisfying solution.
Portals should probably just be account wide. If they want to make it a milestone thing like the challenge mode tmogs in WoD. Make them account wide after a single character has earned a full set within the season. Still an awesome goal. Still a high point. But removes a lot of the negatives (losing the convenience if you swap mains in the future) while also not really changing the game a whole lot. You are still probably going to spend the most amount of time and get the most use from them on your main for the current season.
Maybe a minor concern, but if the portals were account wide I imagine it could be a thing that fuels boost sales more so than today. While people may not care about filling their vault with 20s for gear or the proposition of buying portals for a single character. I’m pretty sure the calculation vastly changes if they were account wide. There are probably people that would pay gold for account wide portals for all the dungeons every season, even if while they currently don’t care enough to buy it for a single character.
I do agree that them even becoming account wife after the season is over would be a nice compromise.
At the same time though, like I said earlier only a small percentage of the playerbase actually gets the portals each season anyways… so when it’s a reward that 90%+ of players don’t achieve, the ones that do should be rewarded with them being account wide.
It’s no different than players clearing the mythic raid and getting a mount that a small percentage of players will get. They can ride that mount on Alts, it’s not like they have to gear up their alt, and clear the raid on mythic again to unlock the mount for that character.
Any feat of strength rewards should be account wide
CoS is faster. I’m not sure between dal and azsuna though.
I liked using the HoV portal before I got the NL portal. There’s no annoying mountain in the way like there is between CoS and NL.
Achievements are account wide, doing a 20 in a dungeon is an achievement, rewards from achievements are account wide…why is this one special?
No one cares, just fly there. With all of the teleports that exist in game, there’s nowhere you can’t get to in three minutes.