What does world first race have to do with mythic plus?
Lol what? You literally can log your runs and see your damage just fine.
The reason it isn’t good in the content you’re doing has almost nothing to do with this (though that can certainly happen).
Aug is powerful because it massively increases the safety of groups in difficult content.
In easy content, you don’t need this survivability, so their relatively low damage contribution just serves to slow down the run.
Huh?
I feel like that at some point, blizzard will either have to make a new support roles, liek it is in EQ,EQ2 and Rift. or give up the idea.
DOS support class tend to eithe rbe, mendatory or useless.
This is the exact kind of person the people in the Evoker discord were openly mocking, because he simply doesn’t understand how the spec functions, they mock and tease to the point it’s just vile and for lack of a better and overused term - toxic.
There’s a huge difference between someone asking questions and someone stating misinformation.
Do you not see the massive difference in how your question was responded to versus their false assertions?
People should never be mocked for genuinely wanting to learn more, full stop.
People that spread misinformation are actively inhibiting the learning of others.
Don’t get me wrong, though-- there are plenty of a-holes in the evoker discord that are toxic no matter what, you’re not wrong. I’ve got plenty of people blocked there. But if you’re insinuating that I’m being similar here, you’re way off base.
No, I was giving you an example of the type of person I saw insulted regularly on the Evoker discord. I don’t think your responses were malicious. He’s wrong, he’s confident in his wrongness and you point that out. Seems fine to me.
Fair enough.
Yeah I think the discord is a situation where you have to take the good with the bad.
There’s a lot of people that come in there with the same questions that are answered in like the first 3-4 pins and it can get a but frustrating if you’re in there for a while to see that very few people even try to read them before asking, so it’s easy to get jaded.
That said, is not hard to politely direct them there with a few extra words instead of the d-bag responses you’ll get from some people.
If you wait for a few of the admins to be in there you can generally get some really good conversations going to even just be a fly on the wall for and absorb their knowledge, though.
I think this is the failing point for Aug to me.
Passive aura type supports are extremely boring. But “support” DPS specs like ret pally or shadow priest have that clutch impactful utility support that is way more fun to use.
Would love if Aug could be made a little more proactive/active somehow.
Like they make tanks a lot tankier just, passively almost all the time with Ebon Might and armor.
It’s insanely active unless you want to be a bad aug that is just skating by in keys (which many certainly do, lol).
In raid it’s easily the most challenging class I’ve played in years, and is incredibly active to actually play well.
I guess instead of active I mean require more timing or has more impact with less uptime. Like breath basically fits that. But putting up ebon might and then just spamming to keep it at high uptime isn’t very, interesting.
That and just maintaining the armor buff on tanks, the shield talent has good interactivity but the armor part doesn’t, it’s just always on unless you needed to shield someone else. So you existing just makes tanks really tanky.
Contrast that to what I’m looking forward to with Flameshaper and being able to renewing blaze tanks at the right time. Seratonin is flowing.
Void shifting a tank to save them through a huge heal debuff as spriest is super satisfying. I’ve PI’d a vdh to let them handle a crazy pull when a healer died once. Vamp embracing the group through a messy pull, etc. I love the impactful support always loved PI because of that.
So for Aug. I like breath of eons for sure. But maintaining high uptime on things like prescience for 1 digit % increases just doesn’t hit the spot. Doing busy work for tiny buffs feels bad which is why I love totems in today’s wow versus totems in vanilla. (Totem twisting) shudders
It’s very simple.
Aug brings substantially more survivability to the group than any other dps, by a margin so wide it’s without compare.
As long as Augs dps, through itself combined with the stats it gives the group, are on par with other dps (it does), it is numerically impossible for it to not be meta.
It was a mistake of a spec for this reason. Either its dps is going to be too low that it’s causing keys to not be timed, and its safety net does not offset this, or it’s going to be like it has been, and will literally always be meta.
There’s no evidence that it can ever be balanced in its current state.
Well if all else fails can always rework augment to be an actual DPS spec where you just augment your own stats/abilities to beat the crap out of people.
Like enhancement shaman enhances its abilities and attacks to beat people with a stick, despite its name having similar implication to the name augmentation
Because blizzard killed tanks survivability. We add armor and give healers more healing and manageable and more DPS to DPS.
We are the goat at least in higher keys. Lower keys probably not so great to have since more DPS would be better.
The painful truth. It makes me sad as I want to continue playing pres, but at high keys levels, nobody is bringing me along with an aug unless they’re unable to find a meta healer.
In pugs, defensive overlaps happen a lot and the added value from Aug is frequently wasted. Bringing a 3rd DPS is often better in that environment. You won’t convince high key puggers of that though.
Sigh.
that is your opinion and definetly not a fact
jesus you sound very dumb and its not even funny
Flagged for being inappropriate
It’s only inappropriate if he’s wrong.
It’s technically just observational.
My understanding is that aug evoker is OP only in very niche situations within a mini-game of 0.1% of wow’s population (pushing keys far higher than what is required for the best gear, achievements, portals, etc.).
For everything else, it’s ‘okay’ and you can play it if you enjoy it, but not required and any class can be taken in its place, which I think suits most of the player base just fine.
I’m very interested to see how aug plays in the race to world first this time, as aug thrives with incredible coordination and good planning. No doubt there will be people, i it is used, who scream that it’s OP without understanding the true complexity involved in squeezing the value out of it in that situation.
unless you are just an immature child calling people names . but that’s what happens when your parents and society failed you
Stating anecdotal misinformation as fact is proof that the school system failed you.
We can all be failures together!
I would honestly be happy if they ditched the survivability boosts and made the spec pure damage support with strong offhealing. We literally have offhealing talents in the tree, they are just never taken because they’re so undertuned.