This exact same logic is what lead to melee survival becoming a thing you know
and now thats the least played spec in the entire game
Unique =/= good
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Most people ive spoken to loved survival when its good problem is its. A melee on a ranged class the design itself is really good.
Trying to force all 3 specs into a pet centric playstyle just leaves many who wont even touch the class to find out parts they like.
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I mean MM spec wtih Sylvanas transmog does look dreamy ngl.
There is absolutely no reason to get rid of pets.
You can make all the planned changes, take lust off the pet, take tenacity/ferocity off the pet, integrate the pet utility into Hunter abilities, implement all the eagle stuff - none of that needs to change and I actually look forward to all of that.
All they need to do is:
- Leave pets with their basic melee so bite, growl, claw, dash, etc
- Give a 5% damage reduction for summoning a pet
Thats it, thats all they have to do to please everyone.
If you dont like pets the above means you can just not summon one or even never tame one at all and it will be 100% identical for you to if they removed pets. For those of us that want pets we can still summon them and the damage reduction means they will never get used for M+/Raids exactly like right now and there would be no balance issues to consider.
The only argument against it is “Yeah but if they dont remove pets how will I get enjoyment out of other people being miserable?”.
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almost no one playing with pet. they just whining. because they love whining.
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not anymore it’s not
You keep survival hunters out of your mouth you hear, they’re easily the 2nd most fun melee dps behind warriors.
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As someone who played hunter on release, I do feel a pang for the loss of diehard marksman players. IIRC, lots of us played deep into the marksman tree, but still enjoyed having the pets for adding dps. They were pretty useless for tanking… back then we used traps and kiting when solo. Dungeons and raids, we’d be screamed at for using pets most of the time anyway. But they were still our pets.
So yeah, it’s sorta like the loss of the original way to play this class. I think it would be better as a fourth spec, but then that raises the challenge of leaving the current MM spec as something that still needs rework, and I’m betting the Devs are done with it.
Needing to maintain a “pet-oriented MM spec” cripples the direction that MM can go.
Remember that these changes for 11.1 MM are ITERATITIVE, meaning there’s so much more they want to do with the spec and that these (removing the pet) is just the first step.
Personally, if they plan on implementing stealth to MM, I’d be so down for that.
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I keep hearing this, but I could have sworn it lost this title now that Evoker is out. Not sure where I was reading data on this, though.
Came to MM for Lone Wolf. The others can have their pets. 
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Because they want to play MM while still having a pet, like they’ve done for twenty years.
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Read my post above. Keeping basic pets literally has no impact whatsoever on whatever it is they want to do.
Also MM already has stealth in Camouflage.
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Pets, by their nature of being mostly AI controlled, can still cause problems in groups whenever shortcuts are taken and the pet wanders around in wide circles to pull things.
it’s not even the least played hunter spec lol be real
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Because pets are a core part of the hunter class/class fantasy and have been for 20 years. Hope this helps!
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No, it doesn’t. MM was fine before Lone Wolf. So was survival. Legion gutted the Hunter class and they still can’t find a good way to fix it.
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I play solo 99.9% of what I do. Or play in LFR or run my own low tier keys. I keep my pet out 100% of the time. Is it “meta”, no. Do I care? Also, 100% no. I like my pets and will use them forever. It’s why I started playing a Hunter.
I agree there should be petless ranged specs in the game, but they belong on another class like rogue, monk, demon hunter.
Honestly, the changes seem good, just roll them into your normal pet and now the class is interactive with their pet, which would be 100% better.
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Why are all these MM hunters crying about losing their pets?
It’s really not very many. The changes are a straight up buff in all content but solo world content. And even there you have a million tools to stun, root, slow, kite enemies. It’s actually really fun to be able to press your other buttons. In Delves we’ll have Bran, and for those elites that can’t be kited there’s BM. Still in a way better spot than something like a rogue who has no choice but to group up.
People just don’t like change.
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What other class allows you to play as an archer?
Also, there’s better solutions than taking away player options from those who want to have a pet out, and for those of us who hate the whole “here’s a half-assed pet you’re going to take anyways” in the form of the stupid eagle.
Lone Wolf can allow you to pick one of the pet buffs from your pet stable to cast without summoning the pet, with a short cooldown (5-10m). That perserves player choice and expression and still enables the fraction of the population who this change is meant to please to do what they’re trying to fix with these changes.
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