Why am i doing such low dps

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Why am i doing such low dps, why cant i be consistent, what are other players doing that im not. what am i doing wrong. why is it so hard for me to understand meta and find meta content. whats better than simcraft? why cant i use it right. where can i find real guides and real help not just random talent tree builds and why cant i understand my rotation. i need some serious help and coaching guidiance… i am trying to get into mythic raiding and according to my raid leader i cant even be apart of the raid because im not up to par…

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same goes for healing on my healers and tanking on my tanks i need help

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Have you uploaded any logs? Someone familiar with DH (not me) would be able to walk you through where you’re slipping. It could be a couple of dead GCDs, skipping priority buttons… lots of things that are hard to parse without seeing the log in front of you.

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you waste too much energy on brutal facts. just use your imagination and benefit from it!

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i had this issue when i came back to the game about 2 months ago. a mage called me bad and it lives rent free in my head.
what i can say is the dps meter this expansion is different. idk how. it just isnt the same as previous expansions. for mythic + i think its " total " damage instead of " current " if that makes sense. for raiding. idk. havent touched it. my advice for raiding specifically is increasing your item level. mythic raiding i think requires upwards of 435 ish ilvl.

what helped me improve is timing my abilities and when to use them at the correct times. for example, i use grim felgaurd. my 4 set reduces the cooldown based on how many demonic cores i consume. needing to have that on boss fights is a must yet using it also on trash is important too. knowing when and where to pop that cd is my learning curve.

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This is just a setting in details, you can display either or both depending on how you have things set up.

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i cant say for sure what i have it set to. tbh i just loaded it pre set if that makes sense

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The piece of paper icon next to the cog, click it and you can swap that window between current segment and overall data. After a dungeon run you can click it again and select to see performance for each section of trash and boss fight, it’ll also log each pull of a boss / kill individually in raids.

You can have multiple windows of details open on your screen at once. I have one for overall damage in a key and one for current segment so I can see the damage that pull.

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thats handy! ill try to replicate that, thank you!!!

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find a guild that helps you instead of one that says sorry you can’t join you are sub par and leaves it at that, if the raid leader can not spend 20 minutes sending you in the right direction I would leave.

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^ thats a good point. listen to the priest.

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When I play a new class I read all the abilities – don’t assume you know what they do – calculate their damage per execute time, ponder about the order to use cooldowns in to maximize dps, and then what people often forever – the secret sauce if you will – practice. Put some work into those target dummies. Do a target dummy sim and see if you’re getting close and what your spell break downs look like.

Also hit your buttons more.

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I guarantee if you type in something like “DH Dragonflight PvE Raiding Guide” or “DH Dragonflight PvE Mythic + Guide,” there will be a remarkable amount of resources on Youtube that are well-informed and polished.

That said, you need to pay attention to three things in particular.

First, gear matters. If you do not have decent item level, or if your gear is stated incorrectly, you aren’t going to do decent damage no matter how perfect your rotation is. Make sure to pay attention to the type of items you need.

Second, perfect your rotation. If I am starting a new class, and am serious about raiding, I will literally write down the rotation order by hand onto a piece of paper, and religiously follow it. Along these same lines, another helpful bit of advice is to get a DH PvE Rotation Weak Aura. What this will do is layout your crucial abilities in order, so it becomes very easy to see what buttons you need to press next. I am sure some of these DH Youtubes Guides will have these types of Weak Auras in their descriptions.

Third, make sure your talent points are all appropriately spent. Certain abilities are good in Mythic + or PvP, but horrible in Raiding. You need to make sure you have this dialed in.

Do these three things, and you’re damage will shoot up over the next few weeks. Of course, remember that gear is the most important thing, so don’t expect to do Mythic-Tier damage if you are in LookingForRaid gear. It’s just not going to happen. But stick with it, keeping building your gear and dialing in your rotation, get a Weak Aura, and it will all click.

Good luck mate.

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You need to watch videos of some good players who play your class doing content that you are interest in. Pay attention to what they are doing and ask yourself why they are doing it.

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Look at the DPS overview, recommended talent builds, and BIS gear on Wowhead and Icy Veins.

Compare that against what the top 5 DHs are using in the Warcraft Logs rankings.

Look for other suggestions (talents, gear, embellishments on crafted pieces) by uploading your logs to Warcraft Logs (or copying the URL if someone else uploaded logs and posted it in guild chat), then using the Compare option to look at your performance against the best DHs in your item-level bracket.

Copy your uploaded log URL to WoW Analyzer for a quick list of what you could be doing better.

Improve your rotation with Hekili or MaxDPS.

What are you specifically trying to do with RaidBots that’s not working?

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Using software addons to tell them what their best rotation is.

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Cause you suck bro, ehehehe git gud…

OK sorry, but we need more info, posting “Why am I bad?” doesn’t really help. Are you doing raids, M+, PVP? What is your talent setup? Are you running any priority helper addons? Do you actually understand the classes you are playing and what their skills do?

For example you say you are bad at tanking, if you wanted to run a DK, are you pressing Death Strike the minute you lose 10% health, or are you using it to it’s full effect?

“Physical damage and heals you for 25.00% of all damage taken in the last 5 sec, minimum 7.0% of maximum health.” The more damage you take over 5 seconds, the stronger the heal is.

Same goes for BrM with their stagger bar and purifying brew, if you use that 3 seconds into combat you may only clear like 10K damage from your stagger, whereas if you wait as long as you can and build up your stagger bar as much as possible you clear a ton more damage, still 50% of the bar, but clearing it when it is higher gives you more, so you can last longer, get your celestial brew built up faster, than you can setup talents to make purifying brew go on CD faster so you can stay alive longer.

It’s the same with healers and DPS, you need to understand how their spells work and when best to use them, like you cannot be spamming flash heal as a HPal, you will run out of mana super fast and it’s not really an effective spell. Spamming chain heal on shamans is also bad, ripetide > chain heal does a lot of healing, but it also uses a lot of mana, you can use your totems to best effect to supplement you raw healing. Druids can place HoTs on everyone, that slow healing over time is quite effective at healing minimal damage, thus saving your mana for the big hits and having more rejuv makes your regrowth heal higher to further maximise your mana.

This list goes on, read your spells, read guides on how those spells work to best effect, try to understand the buttons you are pressing and how they all interact with each other, don’t just go “Oh no, I got hit, time to death strike” and wonder why your self-healing is garbage.

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The class forums are also a good spot to frequent, and I’m sure there is a discord they can direct you towards.

You need to be realistic as well though, if you have your eyes set on mythic and you’re asking where this info is, you’re not ready for mythic. There is a lot of learning that goes into that level of play before you actually boot up your game and jump into the content. Players at that level are regularly consuming large amounts of data before that content even releases to learn how to optimize performance.

Context also matters a bunch. We have more external factors than ever before in performance. You will never push what the best are pushing until you run with the best. Your pulls won’t be big enough to hit that high damage profile in m+, your fights will be too long if players aren’t performing at par or above so you spend longer periods of the fight outside of hero/lust or potions, etc. Aug voker and PI further skew in game info and require logs to really figure out what’s going on.

There is a huge difference in group dps between a 1:30 kill time and a 3:00 kill time. Even though the enrage timer is 5:00 and both are successful, that first one is obviously going to crush Warcraft logs. If you’re in that group, doing the exact same thing, you will have a better parse. Because lust is a larger percentage of that encounter, procs have a higher amount of uptime comparable to the fight time, 3 min CD trinkets vastly skew that data, etc etc. you’re punching harder for a longer percentage of the fight, and it’ll show.

Know what you’re comparing yourself to and learn how to read the data.

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Im going to break this down for you in the simplest chunks I can:

  1. Rotation: this is the basic go to wowhead, figure out the priority list/ritation for single target and cleeve situations and practice on target dummies, in lower content, etc. till you can do it blindfolded.
  2. Cooldown usage: Knowing when trinkets proc, when to use CDs, how to get the most out of procs. Requires knowing the fights, knowing the burst windows, knowing when heroism/bloodlust is coming. In general you are looking for max uptime, so poping them on pull and on cooldown unless you have a good reason to delay (waiting for proc or heroism).
  3. Positioning: generally the biggest fail assuming you have the first two covered. As melee if you are out of range of the target your white hits stop and there goes your DPS. If you are not facing or positioned correctly for cleave you are not hitting as many targets as you could be. If you are a caster and are moving you arent casting. If you cant position yourself to always be casting your dps will suffer.
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Try Icy Veins maybe.

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Check your: talents, gear, stats.

Check stats distribution, talents, and gears of best players on murlok .io

Use icy-veins. com to find recommended talents and proper rotation of your spell abilities. What is the single target dps rotation? What is the aoe dps rotation?

Make sure your main abilities for dps rotation are bound properly on your keyboard, meaning you’re able to spam your rotation on your keyboard and it feels smooth and natural.

Learn proper positioning and cooldown usage for every pull.

There are some class specific macros that should be used. Sometimes binding your trinkets to your big dps cooldown helps as well.

Use dps pots.

Use help of some addons. Class specific weakauras are pretty good. Rotation assist addons like Hekili are really good also to help you find your proper rotation.