Spec’d like everyone else… Full S2 honor gear. my HoL does nothing now. I’m just a punching bag and I put out no damage what so ever. Lvladen and a few others saying their HoL still hits just like pre 11.0 and here comes 11.1 and they say the same thing and yet I am doing nothing to anyone
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could be a skill issue or could be you are running into a hunt or monk killing you in 4 secs so you dont do dmg
health bars dont move
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Was qing with ret earlier, r1 player and it didn’t feel like any of his abilities did anything. You’re not the only ret experiencing this. Damage seems completely off…
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You’re just there to enable your Hunter.
So Hol is definitely doing more damage than last patch, but right now I feel like Heralds the move. I’m averaging like 650k dps on Templar and like 700k+ on Herald rn. But it’s still kinda situational like last season, some matchups you want herald some you want templar. Also idk where they mentioned it but it feels like they buffed the single target damage of divine toll. It’s hitting your primary target up to 3 times so that helps the burst quite a bit too.
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there is always that guy “oH l2 plAy.” lol…
The damage isn’t that much… compare to what it was I agree with Fabolous. I stopped at 2300. was boring.
I didn’t even bother moving out of Ret’s ways last night… it just feels like they’re tickling you.
Sorry man.
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Ret dam is laughable. Reckoning + double hol can’t get a trade, it can barely beg a power word shield. Herald is even worse, even if it does a slightly better job cleaving for the meters.
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I think a contributing factor to this is that disc is also overtuned atm. No one is breaking power word shields atm 
Ret certainly isn’t breaking through PW: shield, no. But there was plenty of situations of mine getting eaten last night. It’s become more of a defensive for my priest, than needing to use it on group members.
Not saying Disc isn’t powerful, but it’s not because of PW: shield now-- we’re not dumping them out like we were with Rapture + Prem: Insight.
…heck, that was boring gameplay to begin with. Feels a lot nicer having my buttons actually do something than just prevent something.
This is basically the entire reason why half the specs feel so crappy atm, disc has insane instant shields that are hard to break through without 50% damp aswell as atonement healing for more then some entire toolkits for healers all instant (hpriest/rshaman/pres) it is insane, while having a insane amount of defensives usable in stuns.
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There are lots of BUG going on with Paladin now. Mostly damage related BUGs. It happens every new patch.
First season in the last 12 that ret paladins playing 600 rating above where they should won’t kill me on accident from 25 yards away?
Don’t get my hopes up
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First week, this game has a lot of bugs going on. Wait until they adjust and actually polish it.