kinda funny how all of the real twinks said this would happen. we get our own queues now and you guys find a new scape goat to point your finger at when you get stomped.
Makes it painfully obvious that most levelers are too lazy to properly gear for PVP.
08/19/2012 09:08 AMPosted by
Valfar
Everybody knows about the GY camp problems and the fact that it is an occasion to celebrate if you get in an evenly matched, competitive battleground where it really could go either way. Every time I queue as an alt, it's either steamroll or be steamrolled with almost no in between.
With easy access to instant groups via Community system, separation will result in more of this than ever. It didn't work for the three expansions of separation.
It surely didn't even work with "Templates".
The best (only) remedy would be more attention on tuning and balance within classes/specs/items throughout the lower brackets.
That would truly be a QOL fix for all.
every post you make is QQ dude
Then your reading comprehension skills are extremely... EXTREMELY low or you're a very bad troll.
That would truly be a QOL fix for all.
Queue times were better than ever, everyone got what they claimed they wanted when queues were split. That was the true QoL for all.
EDIT: You also didn't answer my question (nothing new there). Was Stephen Quire just having fun?
every post you make is QQ dude
Then your reading comprehension skills are extremely... EXTREMELY low or you're a very bad troll.
actually not true at all. you cant keep complaining about a core part of the game while not expecting these comments. wow isnt for you, gear has been a factor for 14 years now. that was still true with separate queues and its true at the level cap
this is a gear based game
you cant keep complaining
I've not complained about anything. That's where your reading comprehension skills are showing their colors. Just a piece of friendly advice (thread aside), just because somebody does not agree with everything you say, that does not mean they're "complaining."
That being said, I do agree with you that this is a gear-based game. The point of any MMO is to level up to the max and then start getting gear. Stopping yourself and doing it may not be against any rules but it's still like failing the 3rd grade until you're 30 years old then beating up the kids at recess and calling yourself a MMA master.
It's like people forget that FFXIV and Guild Wars 2 exist, both "RPGs" without a gear advantage in PvP. It's almost like a genre label barely means anything. In fact, how many current MMORPGs even have a gear disparity in PvP? All I can think of is ESO and WoW.
Ragnarok, maybe?
Can't say I've played it. I just remembered Blade and Soul: It has amazing arena PvP where gear doesn't matter. They also have a BG-like PvP mode where it
does matter, and it's wildly unpopular outside of dailies. Whales reign supreme because the game is pretty P2W.
Should players with High Rated PVP experience be allowed to queue on characters they are leveling with everyone else?
Or would you want them in a completely separated phase of WOW?
Clearly they are much more skilled than the majority of opponents.
Should players with High Rated PVP experience be allowed to queue on characters they are leveling with everyone else?
Or would you want them in a completely separated phase of WOW?
Clearly they are much more skilled than the majority of opponents.
We're talking about gear, not skill. Please focus.
Also, you still didn't answer my question. Was Stephen Quire just having fun?
Should players with High Rated PVP experience be allowed to queue on characters they are leveling with everyone else?
Or would you want them in a completely separated phase of WOW?
Clearly they are much more skilled than the majority of opponents.
Of course they should be allowed to queue on alts. The only thing I have a problem with is items that boost a character's damage to silly levels. Low level PvP shouldn't have a shorter TTK than max level PvP.
We're talking about gear
And BFA is undoubtedly the most balanced gearing has ever been.
Blizzard has hot fixed items faster than ever before in search of this balance.
One recent item would be the Sul'thraze 2h in 8.1.
This only effects low levels, which clearly shows us they notice.
11/14/2018 05:22 AMPosted by
Deneb
Low level PvP shouldn't have a shorter TTK than max level PvP.
I agree with you 100%, but we must take into consideration many defensive are missing at lower levels.
"Magic Scaling" would remedy this, but only if specs/items are tuned correctly.
And BFA is undoubtedly the most balanced gearing has ever been.
That's your opinion and a little misleading. If everything was balanced, there still wouldn't the the problems there are, right?
"Magic Scaling" would remedy this, but only if specs/items are tuned correctly.
That only fixes one side of the spectrum. The motives don't change just because gearing gets fixed. Splitting queues fixed this regardless and vastly improved the QoL for everybody.
Also, you're still not answering my question. Was Stephen Quire just having fun?
Splitting queues fixed this
But it didn't fix the GY camping and one sided Battlegrounds due to over powered itemization use. Gear disparity was wild.
It absolutely fixed the GY camping. It was like day and night. Before the split, you always had some x9 guy camping it, doing awkward emotes as if he's accomplishing some amazing feat. Once they were split, I don't even remember if I saw 1 person ever doing it. The whole "GY whack-a-mole" game seemed to have died. WSG actually felt like a game of capture the flag again.
Gonna answer my other question? Was Stephen Quire just having fun?
Separated experience on Battlegrounds.
08/29/2011 06:25 PMPosted by
Locisc
On the opposite end why should I have to take a Deserter Debuff for refusing to play against a groupful of Twinks camping my GY?
So I have done about 50 random battlegrounds today and every time I come into a Warsong Gulch, one team is always camped at the graveyard. I hate being at the receiving end of it because it just sucks and I doubly hate being a part of it. I honestly would rather deal with 20 minutes of turtling on the graveyard than getting killed or getting kills that don't really feel like honorable kills.
10/29/2011 03:01 PMPosted by
Drakuz
I come back to WoW to find WSG GY lowered and a lot of GY camping, people getting yelled at for trying to turn in the last flag. WTF over? Get the damn game over with, start a new one. Stupid idiots trying to rack up kills, doesn't prove how skillful you are by camping a GY.
I had to sit in a stupid game, waiting for the damn timer, because a group of GY campers would not turn in the last flag. If i left, then I would have had to wait longer before joining another game. Blizz really needs to solve this.
GY camping still happened, i won't lie and say it happened the same amount, it was definitely less, however GY camping was still a prominent thing and all i really do is bgs
Your point? Check the dates of before they were split. It was 100x worse.
What about Stephen Quire? Why are you refusing to answer this question?
No idea if it was directed at me but no clue who the guy is, i haven't seen any twink say that they're skilled for what they do, no twink in their right mind will argue that. The only time skill came into play was 70+ when rated arena was still a thing sometime in mop though.
you cant keep complaining
I've not complained about anything. That's where your reading comprehension skills are showing their colors. Just a piece of friendly advice (thread aside), just because somebody does not agree with everything you say, that does not mean they're "complaining."
That being said, I do agree with you that this is a gear-based game. The point of any MMO is to level up to the max and then start getting gear. Stopping yourself and doing it may not be against any rules but it's still like failing the 3rd grade until you're 30 years old then beating up the kids at recess and calling yourself a MMA master.
you are complaining by definition, you even did it in this post lol. saying its not true doesnt mean you are right
express dissatisfaction or annoyance about a state of affairs or an event.
how are you not doing that?
i haven't seen any twink say that they're skilled for what they do, no twink in their right mind will argue that.
Good morning. I've seen several. They may not say verbatim "I'm skilled because I NEET." And telling someone to "git gud" implies that you are skilled. If you're not implying that, it means you're a hypocrite.