Why all the Elemental nerfs?

It’s bad enough that Enhancement is still stuck with its 2 point talents until War Within actually drops, but now Elemental has gotten nothing but nerfs.

What gives?

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Elemental has been overtuned in the opening days of the prepatch. Though I worry these might be fixes for a problem that will resolve themselves once we move on toward 80.

More that it was blasting on beta. Though with the previous Farseer buffs it should buffer the blow of these nerfs.

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Hunker down for the rage. The shaman forums have been pretty positive the last couple days. A rarity for any class forum.

I suspect the storm comes with this reveal.

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These aren’t even that bad.

Don’t doom.

We are still fine.

Pwave being effected by FoL is great

LMT being 24s cd is great.

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Ele has received nerfs because it was too strong.

There you have your reason.

A nerf is not intended to be compensated, you can however blame Blizzard for their shoddy balancing modus operandi that lead to the need of nerfing Ele this much, especially after prepatch hit live.

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Elemental

  • Lightning Bolt damage reduced by 3%.

  • Lava Burst damage reduced by 25%.

  • Elemental Blast damage reduced by 25%.

  • Earthquake damage reduced by 15%.

  • Flame Shock damage reduced by 15%.

  • Thunderstrike Ward damage increased by 150%.

  • Splintered Elements now grants 10% Haste (was 20%)


Ugh I like how they threw in that 3% lightning bolt nerf just for the sake of it lol.

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Does Thunderstrike Ward deal any damage yet?
LMT reduced to 30 seconds and Stone Bulwark at 3 min–not sure how valuable Totemic Recall will be.
Looking more at Farseer Firestorm build (Storm Ele)–not sure how the buff timer functions on Storm Elemental. Does it disappear as soon as Ele duration ends? Think we could get near 100% uptime–and does Echo of the Elementals reset the buff or extend its duration?
Icefury going to slap harder now?

I’m not sure totemic recall will be worth it anymore. Other than maybe windrush and MAYBE a second grounding totem in pvp?

It’ll have its niche. But its general usefulness seems quite diminished.

The searing flame “fix” is really gonna amplify these nerfs. Drop in lava surge procs is really gonna make flame shock recasts and maelstrom generation awful in AoE

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Unless something changed in the last ~10 days, the Echo of the Elementals resets the buff and allows more stacking to continue.

But it is also possible to have both a big storm ele and mini storm ele out at the same time. If you have both, you get 2 stacks per cast.

Your class is ret rework levels of broken in PvP, and I don’t say that lightly. If prepatch ele went live in TWW PvP would be completely ruined*.

*From the beginning, not when they ignore it later in the expansion and let it rot.

We all knew this was coming. I was kinda surprised by the big boost to our passive damage dealers. I like it though because I have been playing with a Lightning build knowing in TWW they’d try to bring fire and lightning close together.

I’m now even more pumped for stormbringer. Tempest changed to 300 maelstrom spent down from 400. That should be a nice change.

The nerf to both lava burst (25% nerf) and primordial wave (second lvb from pwave does 50% instead of 80% dmg) is pretty rough.

Let’s suppose lvb does 100 damage

Currently when doing pwave and lvb it would be 100 + 80 = 180 dmg.

Now it’s going to be 75 + 37.5 = 112.5

So basically, pwave is like doing 12.5% more dmg to current lvb. They could have done without the pwave nerf so it would have been 75 + 60 = 135.

I see reading comprehension is at an all time high

Given ele’s performance on beta this was to be expected, everyone yapping about prepatch has no idea what’s going on lmao

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yeah the LVB nerf, we all know it’s coming.
LB nerf is like WTF???

Note said Elemental Blast increased by 20% for Farseer? What is this talent listed under? Is it Maelstrom Supremacy all increasing from 8% to 20% or being reworked node entirely?

Farseer Natural Harmony–37% heal every 30 sec in PVP sounds nice

Not rough at all. Ele shamans are busted in pvp, they melt 90 percent of three people they have flame shock on within 2 seconds, and when you pop your defensive and try to kill them, they have shield totem, self heals, and damage reduction on top of getting pocket healed by the healers plus, they have five second interruptable stun that no one ever interrupts, and they have knockback and almost infinite slows. They seriously need nerf. Every time we have a rated blitz whatever team that has the most ele or dk always wins.

Imagine thinking prepatch balance matters and is indicative of the game state in the next expansion.

I really wish I would stop seeing posts like this. Shaman has received the short end of the stick for a couple of years now. Plus this is prepatch and prepatch means nothing so move along please and thank you.