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There are two types of reasoning. Inductive and deductive
Deductive: Horde is convinced that because of their long ques they try harder in AV.

  • This is an opinion or a logic-based argument never actually fully provable. This is known as deductive reasoning.

Inductive: The Alliance is convinced that because of racial and map imbalances they are at an extreme disadvantage in AV.

  • This is a factual argument otherwise known as inductive.
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deductive
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The Alliance are losing and they are convinced that it is because of racial and map balance.

That is the Alliance argument. Looks deductive to me.

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Both can be true. Horde may have slight objective advantages in racials and map layout, and they may also be more likely to engage more meaningfully in AV if they know it will be two hours before they get to try again.

Alliance won a lot when they were playing as coordinated 40 man raids with a common goal, so clearly effort/motivation to win can overcome whatever perceived implicit advantages horde has in AV.

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the map imbalances and racial gaps are factual my son

horde being better because they got longer ques is opinion

You’re right. Its widely known that AV has an Alliance bias. Its a fact. As well as Alliance having the better racials for group PvP. Complete undeniable facts.

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Thanks, but I watched all four seasons of The Good Place.

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It’s cute how you think you are smarter than everybody.

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You forgot reductive reasoning.

I mean, it certainly helps.

Alliance fear bomb horde. Over half pop wotf and barely miss a beat.

Horde fear bomb alliance. Chaos for several seconds…

The secret sauce is to fearbomb a second time 5 seconds later. Also, Fear Ward.

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Yea but it’s also true even before the SH choke meta, the reason horde won was long que times

Horde pugs came to win

When que times were short alliance were winning

This just in: organized groups > pugs…

If a coordinated group of 40 people cant beat 40 randoms in any team anything, anywhere, ever… they all need to quit whatever that thing is.

This is a bad example and only bad people make it…

Why does it matter if an argument is inductive or deductive? Both types can be valid and sound arguments.

That’s an oversimplification of your original point. Horde tries harder because they have longer queues, therefore horde have more success because they try harder. Like I said already, this same fact was true when alliance was rolling 40 man premades of common goal try hards. They were trying even harder still, and so they won more frequently.

regardless it is still not factual or even provable that horde try harder

Point acknowledged that I shouldn’t have said fact. All available evidence supports the notion that effort corresponds to success, for either faction. Sorry I don’t have blinded controlled studies and data for peer review, but it is just a damn video game.

  1. Fear ward is available to one race of one class, has one use, must be used proactively and can be dispelled.

  2. Psychic Scream has an almost 30 second cooldown.

Nice try though