Who is to blame for faction imbalance

I agree. It’s in our nature to make the decisions that we perceive to be the most beneficial to us. Are players to be blamed for exercising human nature? TO use your example, if the potato chip company with the blue label failed, would they be right to blame the customers or should they perhaps look inward and evaluate marketing mistakes that they may have made? Seems that a lot of folks here would blame consumer choice, but personally, I think they should have made their product more attractive.

I don’t PvP anymore, but just to see what it was like, I turned on warmode yesterday, on this character I’m posting on. I went to Nazjatar. When I zoned into Newhome, the hub was actively being taken by the alliance. I wasn’t in a group, but there were some other horde folks hanging around, and we were eventually able to fend off the attack. We then pushed alliance down the road, then they pushed back successfully, then we pushed back a little, then they pushed again successfully. It turned into an all out war ending at the edge of Newhome and eventually both sides kinda just went their merry way. The whole ordeal lasted about 30 minutes, and it was a lot of fun. I died like ten times lol but it was well worth it and I had a great time.

So, yeah, maybe that example is an outlier. But the fact that my very first time stepping foot intentionally into wpvp resulted in being mobbed by alliance showed me that it’s not always a horde faceroll. Take it or leave it, that was just my experience yesterday (and yes, I understand if I were to do the same thing today it’s possible that it would be the opposite). So is sharding the real outlier here? Did I get lucky and end up in a balanced shard?

Pretty much, yeah.

Ghostcrawler, he buffed one sided and the another to promote the faction change and get easy cash. This continue for a while until blizz nerfed all the racials to the point it doesn’t really matters but the damage was already done with the 80% of the PVE playerbase in the horde while the pvp scene died out in the alliance after WoD

I blame Canada, and clowns (seriously, they’re just creepy).

Faction changes are to blame.

The thing is people will always gravitate to the winning side in anything to make life more enjoyable for them. This in turn creates a snowball effect which just creates even more imbalance.

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Imbalance is 100% the fault of blizzard designers that demonstrate favoritism for the horde with things such as racials, story lines and even mounts that are not horses.

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Blizzard does not pay me to babysit, so I leave warmode off.

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Open up group finder, check every single section on both factions.

Mythic+
Mythic0
Rated bgs
Arenas
Raids
Old raids for transmogs (key to look at, not hard content)

You’ll see roughly 3-4 times more groups on Horde side, how does this work for your balance theory?

People swap to Horde daily for more groups to choose from, guilds even because it’s hard recruiting on Alliance for mythic tier stuff.

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It works because it’s not theory. The numbers are there, it’s the participation that isn’t.

There is no faction imbalance. But there IS a participation imbalance.

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Numbers of what? Characters created? I got 30 alone. Participation is all that matters, paired with how many even play.

it doesn’t matter if there’s equal horde and ally chars, if half of alliance quit playing, and half of whats left doesn’t do content.

Then say participation imbalance instead faction imbalance. Number wise, the factions are pretty even for a completely customer driven metric.

I have lots of alts too. That’s not just an Alliance thing.

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If half the alliance quit during bfa, there’s still characters on 120, so numbers will say it’s equal. My friend’s entire guild rerolled Horde for easier mythic raid recruiting, they still got alliance chars and alts, but play Horde now.

Doesn’t matter how you put it, after the racial imbalance it snowballed in Horde favor and now people rather roll Horde due to easier recruitment and bigger pool of groups for any content.

That’s the issue, not how many chars there is.

People are just gonna look at things like Crucible of Storms, 150 Horde guilds, and like 10 Alliance guilds, and say it’s better to raid on Horde, and as such roll Horde. It’s the snowball effect.

Given that a lawyer is running the game now, being precise with language is important. Not that anyone at Blizzard ever reads or cares about anything said here.

They were way too slow in dealing with the imbalance, which is why they’re going for faction merge for PvE content now, only solution left.

They messed up.

Pretty much. When folks catch on that they’re at a disadvantage, they’re going to migrate to the path with the least resistance.

It’s just how humans work.

«Approximately 50.9 percent of all characters in the U.S. realms were members of the Alliance» (statista, 2019). This in February.

So yes, you are the one to blame.

The current team just doesn’t know how to deal with faction balance.
In vanilla they noticed people didn’t roll Horde because there was no pretty races, and as such they added blood elves to Horde and fixed the problem.

Meanwhile whoever was in charge of WoD or whichever expansion had huge racial favor on Horde side, messed up balance permanently.

How many play the game?
How many of those PvP?
How many of those are alts?
How many are Horde alts?

But that’s not true numbers-wise. There are almost as many Alliance as there are Horde. It’s just that those on Alliance don’t really care to participate in higher-ish level content for whatever reasons. Yes, many that did want to participate in that content did transfer over to Horde for various reasons. What you should be doing is trying to convince your fellow Alliance players that they should try raiding and m+.

I also play Alliance. I have max-level characters on Alliance. Having opposite-faction alts isn’t just for Alliance.

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