That’s the thing though. We don’t know if they’re actually cured in the technical sense, or there’s just no void entities around to drive them crazy. Sure they’re fine now, but for how long?
It is something worth thinking about
Sure it matters. The only person who was actually a threat to anyone was Warlord Zaela, and we took care of her pretty quickly.
I mean, sure, no one thought Gul’dan would be yeeted to Azeroth to start another legion invasion. That was an unforeseen consequence of the Iron Horde war.
It might have been, or it’s more likely he thought they were a lost cause and so thoroughly corrupted there was no cure anyway except through death.
He was proven wrong when he did cure Ebyssion though
She wasn’t the only one. We had a genesaur that nearly turned all of Stormwind into Evergrowth. And the Iron Horde could all been a potential threat still had we not intervened/suceeded in destroying the portal. Not to mention they did destroy Nethergarde in the process.
And its worth thinking about that Wrathion may not have cared enough to make that determination. That had he know about Sabellian/his dragons that he wouldn’t have massacred them without a second thought.
They destroyed both the orc and human encampments there. Mainly due to the suprise attack. And I actually forgot all about the Genesaur that escaped through the portal that one time.
I mean, sure. Had he known about Sabellion earlier, things might have went differently. But as far as Wrathion knew, he was the last uncorrupted black dragon. Which is fair, that’s not his fault. Somebody should’ve told him about the black dragons in Outland.
Fair enough. I think we all agree that there was no right decision concerning Stratholme. The citzens and town was doomed either way
I like both characters. I just go by the idea they both lost their souls, and Arthas his heart, though the knockoff Davy Jones stuff in Wrath was honestly starting to lose me.
I think we can agree Arthas did more evil of his own accord before being tricked into trading his soul away than Sylvanas did before having hers ripped from her. But I think it’s unfair to insinuate only one of them was victimized, even if the manipulation done to Arthas (by the likes of Kel’Thuzad, Mal’Ganis, and Ner’Zhul) wasn’t so direct as his own brutality.
Of course at that rate Arthas does bear some responsibility for repeatedly taking known enemies at their word while refusing to let his girlfriend finish a sentence. That’s basically all him.
Gameplay wise you would not be limited any more then say Arathi now being Alliance. Or do you want a questline where the night elves ultimately drive off the Horde? Because honestly, that might just be something Blizzard will do someday if they ever want more faction war stuff.
What it boils down to is that the only thing that will make you and other Alliance fans happy is to put more of the things that made me unhappy in the game, i.e. the writers telling me my faction is badwrong and forcing me to roleplay as such. Which is not what I signed up for when I picked the red team. I was promised two factions alike in dignity, and I didn’t get it—and that makes me salty.
It’s Doness. Blizzard occasionally bugs and lets me post here. You were wrong about Danuser saying it, and you’ve contributed nothing to this thread except insults, screeching your opinion over and again, and blindly believing whatever your friends tell you to believe. Every day, you tell people “Have a great day guys,” and then behave like that. Zahir’s right.
Maybe, just maybe, the Horde is in the wrong here and that it actually has to admit it and try make amends for it. Similarly, the Alliance has to admit it was wrong about the Forsaken and at least some of them(like Anduin) tried to set thing right(even though it had disastrous results)
I don’t understand the rejection to this very much. If the Horde is holding land that isn’t their own aren’t they already in the wrong? There are zones that one faction can’t go into without getting attacked just from being part of the other faction. This is something that has existed since the beginning. As a roleplayer, if you go to places that belonged to one faction but were taken by another it’s something you have to acknowledge when you’re there.
I think it’s mostly due to how unequal horde leveling was compared to alliance leveling for a long time. Up until Cata equalized the leveling experience that is.
And anytime ally players suggest taking a questing zone from horde players, of course there’s going to be some pushback to that. Right or wrong, I get why one side doesn’t want to be at a disadvantage gameplay wise because the lore says something entirely different about whatever zone that’s currently being talked about
That’s an issue that started with the Horde invading Ashenvale in the first place. I’m pretty sure when the Exploring Kalimdor book came out, most didn’t like that the Horde was still fighting in Ashenvale.
Not often. But I’ve seen it a few times. Mainly it’s Ashenvale and Hyjal that people seemingly want to take away as horde questing zones and have them be 100% night elven territories.
Which I honestly get, but from a gameplay perspective, I don’t think it’s a smart thing to do. Though keeping Ziridormi around makes sense. But in some zones it can sometimes cause things to act weird, especially if it was a already a heavily phased zone beforehand
Anytime someone suggests, say, giving Hyjal back to the Night Elves’ in-game, I’ve never seen them ask to remove the original questing experience, without letting people use Zidormi. It’s almost certainly a strawman.
During BFA I remember there was one poster who insisted that it was a good idea for the Horde be completely forced off Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms and forced to settle in Northrend, but he was obviously a pretty extreme outlier.