Balance is dead in SL. I hate the eclipse bar with a passion. And they want to shove that awful gimmick down my throat. Balance and Fury were the best specs to crawl out of BfA.
I guess current balance is more Legion design.
I don’t know about a rework but Demo still needs addressed. An actual interrupt (the axe toss change only really works on mobs that can’t be stunned… so bosses), nether portal is still crap. Needs to spawn demons based on amount of shards spent, not each time they are spent. Sacrificed souls will never compete, just make baseline and replace. The FG talents need to work for all demons if they insist on the felhunter to be the only real interrupt we get.
I’m sure there’s plenty more but yeah.
They remove instant cast heals and nerf stormstrike cause people don’t like building up maelstrom and do big damage, how is this good rework?!
I honestly can’t make that comparison as I was inactive through wod and legion, but being someone who has played on and off since release and never bothered with balance I finally feel like ive found a class I can comfortably play as a main and not get bored of it. I hope that doesn’t change once SL drops
Feral Druid needs to be looked at for sure. Utility for it is not even close compared to the other DPS Druid spec.
Guardian Druid needs to be looked at again the forum fire on this is HUGE.
The 6 second pet rez for Hunters . . I think needs to be looked at. PVP just kill the pet and troll the hunter if its 6 sec rez timer . yikes.
Havoc DH also looking to be in a ruff spot I guess will get better as the xpac goes ? Not sure the direction they are taking, I can say the same about WW monk.
How is Swirling Dragon Punch not base line? Mastery and Hit combo still I think could be rework or updated somehow.
Just to name a few off the top I’ve read over and over and over on the beta forums and other sources like Class Discords.
I agree, nerf dh
Elemental Shaman
Frost and/or Arcane Mage
Affliction Warlock
Just imo.
Bear druids and Subtlety rogues.
I heard we were getting free buffs in here?
glances at the bloody operating table next to the buzzsaw-jackhammer
I’m good. Thanks. 
Everyone is going to respond they still need work. It’s funny to be someone who peruses forums for fun, because you see the extreme disparity of Players’ wants and needs. Everyone feels their class is the worst, everyone feels their class needs work, everyone is jealous that everyone else’s class is loved. Which, hey, that’s human. It’s called “motivated reasoning.” Lol. You reason and decide based on how you feel rather than the evidence.
But it does make me feel bad for Blizz. “You’re doing too much, you’re not doing enough! Give us less, but more! Stay the same, but change!”
And it wasn’t good work. Go and actually read the mage forum.
they just need a damage buff.
who are these people, so we can point and laugh…err calmly discuss how they came to such a conclusion.
I agree with alot there, Demos need a real interrupt, not the axe toss shenanigans they are trying to push as an interrupt.
And more demons, more demons that do more things…stop tying Demos to felguard (and i dont really like the wildimp/tyrant gameplay as it works now).
I dont mind demos being a stationary “stand and cast” spec, but make the results worth the cost of standing still.
BTW Id love Dark Apotheosis (since im sure they will never get Meta back) to return in some form…but I may be a alone in that.
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Every spec needs some love and all have their own issues, talents trees in general need serious work, for almost every spec in the game there are easily 3-4 dead talents (many more in some cases). It would be far more exciting to be getting revamped talent trees with new and cool stuff rather than all the covenant spells.
That said, I can’t think of any spec that is as fundamentally flawed at the very core mechanics of the spec like Shadow Priest was. Again all specs need help in one area or another, sometimes lots of help, but I don’t think there are many that need a full fundamental rework like shadow.
People tend to overreact and start calling for reworks as soon as a spec DPS is low, sometimes it’s only a numbers thing or a small adjustment needed. Sometimes the spec only lacks utility (which is unrelated to the mechanics of the spec).
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I 100% agree with everything said. Demonic consumption could be reworked to be a dark apotheosis cd which, imo, would be much better. And still give the baleful effect as well.
I’d also love to drop the grim FG talent for a second permanent demon, scrap inner demons for legions GoSup with a pitlord, fel lord and dread lord as options, and soul conduit can just… go. Maybe something more interesting. Rework Soul Strike and Demonic Strength to work for all demons.
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I effing knew it. There isn’t one single expansion, not effing ONE, where Paladins don’t cry about ret, not ONE. BUT THEY ARE ALWAYS OP AF. Most breast fed class in game next to Rogues.
I’m going to assume you’re talking about PvP because ret is trash in PvE.
Seriously, screw Ret. “Ret is trash in PvE” really means, buff us until we are OP in both. You guys are so predictable. Same BS excuses since WotlK.
You’re right that was a lie. Ret isn’t trash
Well at least you can admit you’re wrong.