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Please reread our discussion, I realize that crashing out probably made you misremember it, I haven’t even said that I was good, but pretending like a 98.7 average on warrior is bad is hilarious.

So not mad about it you still spam pvp threads of the forums of a game you don’t even play.

“If pvp is popular why is no one doing it” triggers you every time. This thread is about how dead vanilla pvp is, and I promise you if it was good it wouldn’t be dead. Even retail pvp is better than vanilla and its trash as well.

I haven’t pvp’d a single time in anniversary, closest I came was holding W in AV for a few months and pressing the left arrow key to spin while people attacked me.

I do care about the long term of this game, and have played this game for a very long time. I choose to participate in discussions because of this. I like wow, but am not a fan of how it is currently.

Well it doesnt, people ask for the reason and I give them the answer

Why wasnt pvp dead in 2019 or SOM?

its the same thing, the only thing that changed was internal systems. PvP was outstanding in 2019 and SOM. Anniversary is so different they are two completely diff worlds. So what changed? Well i listed them

Oh I am not surprised

The answer is because its bad. Its p2w at its best and rock paper scissors at its worst. You are so emotionally invested in your wow pvp achievements you can’t just ignore a statement like that, its how we know you crashout.

At least I know if we were chatting in any real way instead of the forum you would back down and change your opinion like you did everytime Bob said anything to you in that interview. I enjoyed it immensely.
“SoD pvp is really balanced” “well except for X” “yeah you’re right its not balanced”

SOM not being dead omegalul.
Why was pvp more active when 1m people were playing versus 100k, gee idk man we need a wall of text explaining it instead of just saying the obvious.

It shouldn’t be surprising that people don’t want to pvp in wow. The only time pvp was ever popular was Vanilla AV and tbc/wrath arenas, after that it became so niche that no one cared anymore.

That’s not the reason why

Appeal to emotion

If it was bad why was it so strong in 2019 and som?

I would be playing if that was the case.

I never said sod pvp was balanded the entire interview

The pvp was fantastic! we still talk about it to this day

There also wasnt 8 layers, there were 2 to 3 tops

except in 2019

its quite clear you have a chip over your shoulder and HATE pvp players, most horrendous players who cant control their characters do

I think its cute that you listened to our entire interview, that means you envy me. You spent the time to listen to me, but because you got ganked in redridge once you want to burn the entire thing down

This is why I will relish on the forums when warmode is passed up. I will list you in my title specifically

in the end on warmode i will win

and you will lose

and you know it

the next time i participate in a content pvp discussion ill be sure to let you know, so you can listen to me while your forehead veins violently pop out of your forehead in anger. Myabe its because you cant argue my points are bad at all, like cosmetics based off of pvp participation like mounts and enchants.

No one played SOM, so thats an impossible question

You already informed us you don’t play because no one wants to play with you.

Why lie about something on a publicly available podcast. Its at 1:23:41 where you say the game is balanced then back down like a beta when he pushes back.

I don’t care about them, I just think its crazy to cater to the 20 of them over the rest of the population.

I listened to this podcast when it was brand new you egotistical psycho lmao. Whats awesome is how many times in this interview you say things that are direct contradictions to things you say on the forums.

Please do, I will most likely need you to remind me who you are

You keep giving away just how emotionally invested you are in this thing, its unhealthy

LOL bro thinks hes a famous podcaster now, jeez man quit making it so easy

Lazarak the Blue :pray:

Why wasnt it bad in 2019?

Why did you avoid answering this portion of the question I wonder?

I quit while everyone still wanted to play with me. This little girl high school insult isnt going to work on me

I said vanilla is balanced, despite its imbalances individually with classic. You need to go back and correct yourself. I was on there specifically because sod was NOT balanced.

2019 was more popular and had more pvpers.

I regularly stated the imbalances wirh sod. You dont have to listen to me, you can listen to literally ANYONE who played sod

You remember me vividly, youve known me since before this conversation obviously

Never said that, but I have enough background where people invite me to these spaces. They dont invite you because you dont have anything. no pvp background, no pve background. nothing.

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Different audiences have different tastes, the 2019 classic pvp was great till the casuals got pushed out by premades making up every game.

If you have to lie maybe you shouldn’t speak lmao Once again, publicly available podcast.

I remember the podcast, not the no name guest used to fill time once Bob started to only cover the most dead version of the game post wrath.

Bro I promise you getting 1k youtube views isn’t the flex you think it is. Telling me i’ll never achieve that is like telling me i’ll never know how to properly shingle a roof. Like yeah its factual its just not meaningful in any way

I think ppl are just bored with classic.

I mean the population is 25% of classic 2019…

25%… That’s laughably low.

The only ppl remaining are that 50-75% players who saw the top quit and now think they are incredible per the lumber website

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Well the casuals premaded too, so do you mean casual premades got pushed out by non casual premades? Help me make sense of this a little.

Also, nobosy ques now even with no premades. They didnt in sod either.

I am listening to this right now, I am talking about vanilla being balanced in group play, even tho sod removed solo imbalances.

Your envy is flattering. I get screentime and you dont. People care more about me than you. an hour and a half “filler guest” is quite the cope from someone who knows this host loves pvp

Never said it was, I went on there to share my perspective. I think SOD had some good ideas for a classic+, but it was delivered poorly

I agree, i think we have had alot of vanilla recently. I will play whatever they do next tho, as ive been gone a while not

its ez for me not to get burnt out cause if the server isnt fun i just dont play. I dont think everyone is able to do this

Bro hit the bottle post crashout to cope

Listening to yourself is wild bro

Yeah you have more people online who care, but its very obvious from how important to you that is that you are lacking it where it actually matters lol

The host who got mad and quit covering WoW because of SoD

Bro is literally bragging about his guest slot on a youtube vid with 1k views where he isn’t even named in the video info

Lazarak the Blue :pray:

Cope? You said casuals wanted to play but got pushed out by premades. there arent any premades and theyre still not playing

It was a while ago, i did it to confirm you werent making sht up, which you were

Which is why you cant stop replyiong to me and mentioning a podcast I was on that not a single person in this thread mentioned but you. YOU remember me, YOU know who i am.

yeah because sod was bad, I agreed with him on that

He actually loved sod at first, i actually never liked it much from the get go but gave it a chance to see the ideas. after 3 phases i hung it up.

But it was a decent test.

And youll remember this till you die somehow

whats funny is i think me and you could be good friends, as your persistency in flaming and trolling doesnt end. We arent so much different Luke. you fight that which you love.

Yeah because everyone knows how pvp in vanilla is now and the nostalgia is gone. It was always bad they just forgot.

Still lying

Bro made a forum post to brag about being on a podcast and didn’t expect people to call him out for it lmao Also your accent is grating, thats why I remembered it.

I can’t stand people who lie and change their opinions at the drop of a hat.
You’re at ripsod/frosstfire levels of lying at this point.

this thread started off as funny but quickly became sad from laz and vols posts

Welcome to the classic forums, every thread is like this if you haven’t noticed.

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Why was it played religiously even pre classic up until sod/anni?

These are the first 2 servers EVER that it was dead

I wanted to spread the ideas, do you happen to think pvp participation for cosmetics and mounts are bad yes or no

No, you and I could be great friends. But you hang out with people that arent like you.

We already have a group of people ready for the next classic season or + Luke, think about what you could accomplish with the empire

oh i have noticed but generally its ripsod or frost

ripsod is mainly a anti gdkp troller not a pvp guy

you match his energy except your go on about PvP

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