Which Version of Genn’s Speech Do You Believe?

Alliance version:

Genn Greymane: King Rastakhan of Zandalar… On behalf of the Alliance, and in the name of King Anduin Wrynn, I hereby request your surrender.

Horde Version:

Genn Greymane: King Rastakhan of Zandalar…I order you to submit! You will bow before your new master, King Anduin Wrynn, and you will deliver your daughter to us as a hostage!

I’m thinking I believe the Horde version. I have never met a troll that would lie to me.

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Genn is typically depicted as a hot-head who doesn’t seem too inclined for the niceties of diplomacy. The Horde version sounds like how I’d expect him to behave though I doubt he’d call Anduin “master” or call her a “hostage”. So honestly I believe the tone of the Horde version, i.e. more threat than request, but coarser wording than the Alliance version.

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The encounter is experienced first-hand by the Alliance.
The encounter is experienced second-hand by the Horde.

TL;DR – The Alliance’s perspective is canon. A primary source is always to be considered more efficacious than a secondary source.

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pretty much this, the alliance experience it first hand, while the horde are only told about it, the alliance one is definitely canon

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But the Alliance also think their farts don’t stink… sooooo…. once you take that into consideration…

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I’m Horde and I believe the first version. Though I believe Genn delivered it like an absolutist unwilling to show any reasonable tolerance of the Zandalari. Genn is prejudiced against the Horde. He would murder them all if he could.

And Genn and the Alliance should have never attacked Zandalar. They took Talanji prisoner starting the aggression. Now they show up starting a war with Zandalar? The Alliance scum started the war with Zandalar. Any alliance acting like they didn’t murder and provoke the Zandalari are liars.

Players want to talk about what Sylvanas did burning the tree. Now the Alliance scum equaled her attacking the Zandlari and murdering their king without provocation after kidnapping and imprisoning his daughter. Anduin needs to get stomped on.

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Alliance 100%, they attacked first. They have the cannon story.

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Isn’t the Horde Version just a retelling?

the zandalari attacked anglepoint of kul’tiras, a kingdom uninvolved with stormwinds capture of the princess who was accompanied by the bloke who was responsible for repeated aggression against the alliance.

that is hardly the same thing, teldrassil butchered thousands of civilians while in dazar’alor had very few civilian casualties

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yes it is, it is essentially a flashback with a unreliable narrator

One of them is literally the actual thing happening, and the other is some random troll telling you stuff.

This is like if I ordered a hamburger, and ate a hamburger, and still have the receipt for a hamburger, then some weirdo on the street runs up and says I really ordered a chicken sandwich and you ask me who I “believe”.

Like, the fact that this is even being humored as a debate isn’t even possible without some kind of willful disconnect. One of these stories is firsthand from the player character’s own perspective as it occurs, and the other is through a game of telephone. End of story.

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I dunno, I’ve had some pretty awesome chicken sandwiches in my time.

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I can honestly say I’ve never had a chicken sandwich so awesome that it physically altered the receipt in my pocket.

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I left a receipt on the dash of my car and it went black. The chicken sandwich might have been really hot and scorched it.

This is making me pretty hungry, by the way. Thanks! : )

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Of course they stink. Have you not met the stinking nelf guild?

They camp in shadowmeld and then ambush horde parties with their farts. The poor Horde suffocate in it ):

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That makes sense. Considering BFA IS, and has been, 100% Alliance focused (Narrative).
It’s just like the raid in question (LFR):
First half is Alliance raiding the place, killing everyone and occupying it.
Second half is Horde being used as cannon fodder and bodies (to supposedly defend, which is void anyway)
and the Third half, is Horde forced to play AS Alliance (perspective), with the odd sense of innocence in the matter. “Mercenaries” lol. After just playing through the first part.

But the good thing is that the narrative will switch sides. Bfa isn’t going to be FULLY about Alliance. That would be bias, yes?

And just to add: No one finds the above odd, at all? Canon or not, you honestly don’t think that the illusion of “morality” is being projected to the Alliance deceptively but not to Horde? Seems that way to me. Just seems like one side is brutally honest, while the other is very “delusional” in what they see, say and do. Reeks of old god influence to me but “Shrug”.

Having been around Genn and listened to more of his yapping than I’d like to admit, I’m inclined to believe the horde story. He’s not a very cultured individual.

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…We literally had no story reason to walk into the previous raid tier. At all.

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Both.

Bad google translations are a meme.

The real version is:

WOOF WOOF GRRRR WOOF GRRR GRRR GRRR WOOOF.
Sits next to Anduin and licks itself

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