2x barb > bestrial > KC > aspect > barb > essence/trinkets > barb and then prio
or
ASpect > bestrial > barb 2x > KC > essence/trinket > barb prio
new to hunter so im talking about single target here. i do know that generally want to cobra 1 or 2x if im full focus and KC has longer than 3 seconds
First off, I have trinkets tied into Bestial Wrath (probably need to switch them to Aspect of the Wild but whatever) via a macro. Second, your opener is going to depend on if you have Primal Instincts or not. With Primal Instincts you need to dump your Barbed Shot charges before using AotW.
Personally I generally go (with PI)
Bestial > KC (to dump some focus and get my pet to the target) > Barbed 2x (gets some Bestial charge back) > AotW > Barbed > rotation
Without PI you would use Aspect alongside Bestial before using KC and you don’t get the extra Barbed.
I get that all the BM guides say to pop BW pre-pull probably so you can get the cooldown reduction on it from the following 2 barbed shots, but your first option also makes sense to me because after 2 barbed shots there’s a good chance you’ll be popping both CDs with Dance of Death active. If you pop BW pre-pull and don’t get a DoD proc until your second barbed cast, then you’ve wasted at least 3 seconds of BW uptime with no proc.
Given how much crit we have now and how easy it is to get 3 DoD traits, I really wonder if casting BW pre-pull still makes the most sense.
ok i thought PI was the norm.
what other little tips should I knwo for rotation. ill post more once Im deeper
The first thing on a fight is to establish aggro on your tank then you nuke.
Misdirection first over anything else.
If you hit the Boss without Misdirection and you hit the Boss first before your tank hits the boss, the next barb shot establishes aggro on your pet and the Boss could one shot kill your pet. And the next move you do is revive pet. LOL. What a waste… If you are unfortunate and the tank was afk, after the Boss killed your pet, the Boss would start coming to you to kill you next.
Get used to it. It’s automatic on me. Misdirection first.
On actual boss fights, I do:
Pre-pot (yup I am not cheap) - Misdirection to Tank - then nuke rotation…
oh really? didnt know
It is the norm. You have to get the trait on your armor though so it is good to know what to do if you don’t have it for whatever reason.
so im level 50
I wraith bard 2 aspect then I just use kc opn cd and maybe some cobvras split in while i refresh my dot
for barb going off cd same as kc, what is my prrio there? i assume barb is first?
also I feel like for barb I don tknow when to use a 2nd stack or whatnot, sometime sit flashes and then I can do 2-3 on target and sometimes It runs out
At level 50 you will pretty much only use AotW in dungeons against bosses. You may also use it against any tough mobs out in the world (there aren’t many at that level). Bestial Wrath is pretty much the same way though you can be a little more loose with it once you get the Barbed Shot cooldown reduction passive. Although you don’t get the Barbed Shot cooldown reduction passive until 54.
Mainly you will just be doing KC on cooldown and Cobra Shot to keep reducing it’s cooldown. Meanwhile you will try and maintain 3 stacks of Frenzy from Barbed Shot by refreshing Frenzy when it gets down to around one second. Though if you get lucky and get multiple Wild Call procs and have two charges, you will just dump the second one as you get it.
KC has priority over Barb as long as your Frenzy buff isn’t about to fall off.
so KC has more prio even if a barb is off?
and I just barb when tehre is 1 sec left, did I get that correct? i feel im not playing hte class right even on bosses
i thought we were supposed to have 2-3 barbs on a boss at all times which is whyi was flustrerd
KC has priority unless Frenzy is about to fall off.
After you reach 3 stacks, you want to use Barbed Shot when there is around 1 second left on Frenzy unless you get lucky Wild Call procs that get you up to 2 charges. Then you just fire off the second charge and hold the other for keeping up the Frenzy buff.
Bear in mind that Frenzy is only up for 8 seconds (9 with the Feeding Frenzy Azerite trait) and Barbed Shot has a 10 second cooldown so you will not be able to have 100% 3-stack Frenzy uptime unless you are lucky with Wild Call procs.
ok thanks, im not 120 yet but feel im not getting ht most out of this supposed “easy” class
ill come back to this topic once im 120 and see how im doing in higher level dungeons.
This is the one to do when you don’t have Primal Instincts (although trinkets are off GCD so there’s no reason to delay it so much here; use it at the same time as the Bestial Wrath.
When you do get Primal Instincts the opener is the following:
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/beast-mastery-hunter-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities#opener-sequence-for-beast-mastery-hunter
This wastes a lot of the cooldown reduction for Bestial Wrath.
I pop BW 1.5 seconds before pull and if we are bloodlusting on pull I consistenly will have BW back up within a few globals of BW dropping. I would say at high crit ~40% it is very good to pop BW early. I also don’t use the cooldown reduction bow, so I would imagine you could even get to the point where you have BW ready to use before the BW buff ends.