Which Man'ari will become pentinent?

My money is on Rakeesh, I know it says deceased but I do not buy it. I’d love the Eredar twins and jeraxxus.

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Which one matters less to me than how one becomes penitent for their part in a cosmic war of genocide and destruction.

“I didn’t mean to genocide countless planets! Can we be friends now? I’m good now, I swear. :smiling_face:

“They said they were sorry for the 25,000 year genocide across the stars. Anyway they just lost their job and need to crash on the Exodar’s couch for a couple of weeks, its not a big deal”–

Velen’s adress to the draenei people probably

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Watch it be Archimonde and Kil’jaeden.

Obviously that’ll never happen, but I just like to imagine the lulz. I can already hear Erevien’s screams from the other side of the globe if the Alliance got the Legion’s two top officers.

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The best solution is to use civilians of argus. The ones who were unaware before it was too late or unable to reach the safety of the genedar. Likely ones who were given no choice in the matter.

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I want to highlight a few things.

Atrigan yells: Admit that I am right! Break the body and the spirit follows.
Belac yells: Physical pain? Bah! Mental anguish is the true weapon. Was it not the key to turning Rakeesh?

Not all Eredar joined willingly. Velen’s son was tortured into submission. We have seen what fel and demon blood have done to the orcs. Fel has been painted as an addicting force. While many Eredar joined the Legion willingly; There were likely those who were unwillingly brought in.

Also, I still think Rakeesh survived. Velen loves his son dearly, would he not move the cosmos itself to help his only child? He turned on us during the scenario and was willing to fight us to protect his man’ari child. The theme of family is a central theme of WoW. The Horde embraces the theme of a found family. Anduin and Varian; the loss of tiffian and the struggle of it. Magni and Moira; how death divides and fear enables the differences.
Moira and the dark iron dude. Forbidden romance found family.

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This is what I expect to be honest. Although it would be neat, I don’t anticipate any previously encountered Eredar showing their faces, unless it’s to weed them out and put them down (again).

My theory is there are likely Eredar civilians whose skin and eyes changed just by being near so much Fel exposure, similar to how Orcs and BEs experience physiological changes like green skin or green eyes.

These people would be much easier to welcome back into the fold rather than the ones that were directly responsible for the genocide of their own people and the near complete destruction of their home world. That’s pretty damn unforgivable, even for Velen.

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Honestly I wonder if there’s going to be some elaborated difference between Man’ari that are just tinged with Fel and proper Demon Man’ari. Like I don’t think the Fel Orcs are demonic despite the red skin and we know the Green skin orcs definitely aren’t demons, so maybe a majority of Man’ari are the same?

I do hope Rakeesh is dead, the weight of the encounter and scene is really robbed if he just comes back now okay and willing to join his dad. Nothing against the dude, I’m a big fan of all the Draenei, just it’s an amazing bit just because you see Velen freak out when he realizes what’s about to happen and him getting a vision of holding his dying son kinda loses weight if it wasn’t Rakeesh really dying or whatever.

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Jaraxxus? His exposure is still destorying the person that summons them-- can’t imagine much progress. :imp: :broom::robot:

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A new character that isn’t one of the original traitors, perhaps leading a group of Man’ari that fled the Legion. 25,000 years is a long time, I’m sure there were numerous Man’ari born in that time, and I’m sure not all of them were omnicidal maniacs.

I want jaraxxus as mecha jaraxxus. “You face Mecha-Jaraxxus! Eredar Lord of the bur- Alliance!”

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Prince Malchezaar and his infinite forces along with Tyrant Velhari leader of the Sargerei vindicators.

Nothing like a reunion of old enemies now turned friends. The Sargerei were former Draenei who rebelled against their parents from Argus and became demons. These eredar would be the most likely petitent forces. Like Soulcaller Levixus who was born a Draenei.

If we are honest and think about it… Lord Jaraxxus leading the Alliance forces would just be resplendent. Same with Archimonde now known as old Archie of the Alliance… He looks over to Tyrande and says, “Sorry for that incident with your tree that one time…” I can see the Horde with their mouths ajar going, “You Alliance can’t be serious!”

Then of course, Yrel shows up and sees Prophet Velen drinking tea with his son and old friend Archie… The hilarity will ensue… :rofl:

There were those demon ladies on Argus who talked about fighting against a greater threat. They seemed a bit more… idk… grounded and even keel compared to the rest. I thought they were a good window into the existence of more reasonable Manari among the Legion. A breadcrumb towards explaining playable Manari. There are some out there who I could see simply swapping sides, especially if they believe there is a true threat, and since the Legion failed, Azeroth’s champions might actually be the ones to stop the “true threat”

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Imagine them taking two steps into Stormwind and then coming across a bunch of Void Elves.

I was in the middle of changing that when you quoted me, I went back and took out the word Void because I don’t remember if they specifically mentioned the Void or just a vague true threat.

I will probably go visit them for fun and to refresh my memory after I get home from running errands.

I don’t remember their names but I kind of remember where they were I think.

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Saying “my bad” has worked for Orcs so far.

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You can’t compare the scale of destruction the Orcs have caused, which is relatively domestic, to the Burning Crusade perpetrated by the Man’ari, which spans countless planets that’s left them completely destroyed or enslaved.

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It will be interesting for sure, because there’s a bit of an interesting question to be posed based on Chronicle’s interpretation of events. Due to the pact made, Sargeras basically turned ALL of the eredar, barring Velen’s faithful, into demons. But surely that would have encompassed a lot of people who were just… civilians or people who had little to no idea what the heck was going on. Children too, or those born later into the whole Legion culture.

Either way, the thing about immortality is that you can serve multiple life sentences. My assumption is that the deal will be them working to save as many lives as they destroyed, which could likely take tens of thousands of years. The Illidari already have demons that are members and work openly with them… will likely be the same deal.

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Something something, a death is a tragedy a million is a statistic.

The “scale of horrible” breaks down when you get to genocide level. One genocide is more or less the same as a dozen in terms of judging it as irredeemable. It doesn’t get “irredeemable x2” the bigger the number goes up.

So “my bad” for one genocide will work for whoever knows how many others. Maybe they just have to say “my bad” a bunch of times.

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I mean this works for the Orcs, and the Horde more broadly. All activity of the Orcs pre-3rd War is kind of just hand waved.

Man’ari Eredar could also simply say they were not of their own free will because some fel-magic mumbo jumbo. I mean it works for the Orcs and Mannaroth’s blood, so we could possibly get a similar story. We don’t even know if this is Man’ari or if this is simply Eradar civilians who survived as some other alternative faction within the Eradar race and was unaware of Velen, we really don’t know where its going.

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