I am looking for best guidance on which class to play for pvp, in an undergeared form.
what I mean is I do not have time to raid, I can do a 2 hour dungeon, but nothing greater in a raid form, don’t have the time. So looking for best class that i can have fun with purely in PvP in what ever gear i can get overtime from Auction House or PvP rewards.
ABOUT ME
I have been playing wow since the start 20 years
Once Iget to lvl 60 I only PvP that’s it
I have played Mage, Rogue, Hunter, Priest, Druid, Warlock to lvl 60
I love priest, love healing, and love to be able to go shadow and PvP, but it consumes mana so fast you drink after almost every 1v1 fight
Just last week I played 100 AV games on an undergeared rogue, and felt really weak
I did not like warlock much when i had him as he died so fast to melee
I did not like hunter as once melee on him, he died pretty easy
I am currently leveling a druid to lvl 60, he lvl 40 right now, will i feel just as weak on him as a rogue, if not weaker?
or should I just stick to leveling my lvl 40 priest and just play him, and put up with drinking all the time after every little skirmish.
or is there better choice for undergeared pvp class?
If you are willing to heal, I would roll a paladin. You get to try something new and they are insanely good in pvp blues, they are not gear dependent, have zero worries if melee get on them.
And there is a ton of depth to the class if you ever get to rank 14 get the big weapon and decide to explore ret (though not recommended until you’ve done a lot of healing or else you risk becoming one of the many bad ret paladins running around.)
Both priest and paladin will be very useful to your team even in pvp blues if you are healing and supporting.
As undergeared rogue you can be pretty good at defending in WSG (just ccing enemies for as long as possible) - but otherwise it is kinda annoying to not be able to kill well-geared players.
If you must play a dps class undergeared it will always be a bit painful, maybe shaman or hunter are the least painful, since shaman can also support team and hunter can scatter trap even the most geared of enemies and keep distance.
Mage also could be okay undergeared but I don’t have a ton of experience there.
If you are undergeared but only pvp you can do a soul link spec - but that is kinda low burst and boring. Or do a drakedog 5-6-40 style, which gives you that 15% stam - so even in blues you will have similar HP as bis warlocks in standard bg pvp specs.
Depends what spec you play and what your goals are. In vanilla you have a lot of leeway of what to do in pvp - so if you decide you want to be a feral cat and 1v1 geared players - yes druid will feel weak.
But if you decide to be a sort of hybrid-support in AV that roams with rogues and helps heals, damage, uses mana and goes into forms and stuff - then you may find yourself feeling quite powerful with little gear.
A huge part of the pvp is positioning and aligning your class with goals that can be done. So if you are feeling really weak, maybe also try doing other things in the BG - that could also prove to be fun
Even if you’re not big on healing, I’ve actually been having a blast on mine playing as ret. You don’t do a lot of damage but you bring a lot of utility to the classes around you.
AV Exalted gets you a decent 2h weapon and shield, and if you play prot or pretadin (google the latter, OP, if interested), you can get pretty fast groups for dungeons by playing either dps or tank. This lets you fish up some +hit gear, which I find helpful.
Now, this might put me in the “bad ret paladin” camp that you speak of, but I feel like there’s a lot more to a paladin than just healing, and you can line up some serious plays by just taking a poke in between whatever else you’re doing. Also, when that SoC crit happens and the stars align with a melee crit and a HoJ proc… oh dang! Feels good
Nah the ones I am referring to are mostly the paladins that press W and don’t think about any of their spells. They only freedom themselves, they don’t use blessing of sac, they don’t heal when a target a almost dead and just needs a save, they don’t cleanse, etc.
The thing is a lot of those players likely came from a dps class → ret paladin and never spent the time learning how to be a support.
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It is far harder to play a ret paladin than it is to play classes that are clear dps or healing - the reason being that every second in pvp you have to decide whether you are supporting or attacking. Also teammates often don’t know how to best play with a ret paladin, whereas most players have experience playing with other classes.
And if one has no experience as a support - they can never make those decisions well, and often end up looking like clowns to good pvp players as they are blindly right clicking something for like 200 dps while they let 5000 dps worth of team die.
Out of curiosity, you seem to be playing a lot of different classes. Why is the goal to be undergeared? Could you not just spend your gametime sticking to one character until you’re well(ish) geared?
I do realize that you said you don’t have time to raid, but can do a 2-hour dungeon. I’m assuming that you’re not saying that anything that isn’t at least Naxx or Rank 12+ gear is bad gear.
Any of them if you use CC, Dispells, (non damage abilities) properly.
The number of games won simply by using CC and dispels, and tool kit stuff correctly its insane.
The number of games lost by players who only know how to zug a target is also insane.
It does not matter what class you pick in Era, the only thing that matters is if you master first your NON-DAMAGE abilities, and second that you know where in the meta your spec of choice works and what player classes/specs to help / hinder are and how to do that.
If you do your job, and you do that job as best you can, then you will be an asset regardless of gear.
Probably, would say, do some dungeons gear up your priest, if you don’t mind healing, try disc, its got huge utility, and if you get bored you can simply swap back to Shadow.
Thing is any class ungeared is going to need to drink after almost every fight and will feel weak. Your best bet pick one class, PvP and slowly rank up to get the blue gear (not horribly difficult, and then augment it with some dungeon gear, as even a little gear will help a lot.
In Era I have played in this order lock, druid, shaman, hunter. In Era I have done 0 raids. The lock is in .5 tier from dungeons. And r13 on the druid/shaman/hunter. Which means none of them have very good weapons or ZHC, but the r13 ones have pretty good survivability stats. And maybe its order of last played but my preference on playing them would probably be hunter>shaman>druid>lock.
This is all from a 100% solo perspective, pugging all day.
Edit: While this guy doesn’t have ZHC, he does have Talisman of Ascendance which used to super cheap to buy from AD. When there were bots doing the things that got bone fragments and dark iron scraps. The damage isn’t as high, but it has a shorter cooldown.
My recommendation for anyone who likes to pvp is to choose a class where the gear you earn for pvp is actually good. This tends to be pure DPS classes like warrior. With hybrid classes like druid they try to split the baby with the gear and it ends up with things like attack power bonuses that do nothing for resto and boomies.
