638 pvp ilvl did 2.4 mil hammer on pvp dummy. Seems about right
Templar is broken for me atm…I cant get anywhere near what I use to push DPS wise since patch dropped, granted I’ve only done a few PvP rounds so far. Has anyone tried herald of the sun? Is it any better? Or do I just stick to an alt until they fix templar?
I’m glad I’m not the only person experiencing this; I was ashamed of my performance!
It appears as though someone deployed the patch after modifying our skillset in undocumented ways. It’s truly as if certain abilities are up to a 50-100% complete nullification.
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The numbers appear to tick (sometimes) on dummies and non-player targets but (like with rogue, recently) fighting players gets you completely dunked. It feels like a completely gutted class in comparison to a few days ago.
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@Blizz; Verify your staff? I’ve submitted information to your hacks@blizzard.com email regarding specific groups of ‘adults’ acting like children with credentials that can get them into companies to break up the consistency of well-known platforms so people are urged to relocate to alternatives that end up being malicious (but provide an online experience; gaming included). - A little dramatic, for certain - but it’s unfortunately a legitimate, active concept. They end up being the same people that engage in exploitation of competition through cheating, “hacking” or otherwise. It’s cringe.
The releases from ‘A War Within’ honestly seem completely riddled with random holes dug that don’t meet consistency with your prior releases and Paladin/Rogue are just 1 recent example.
I have crit the dornoga pvp dummy for 5M before that is not a metric to follow. In pvo matches is not doing damage. 1.4M fully buffed is a meme and nowhere near close what we used to do
Retribution was one of the worst 3v3 class, and blizzard chose to nerf it even more instead of buffing, while buffing already S tier classes, good job? crazy
Please stop comparing PVE to PVP, its not the same !
lvladen saying his HoL is doing the same dmg… mine doesnt move a health bar an inch
If Ret isnt melee, it needs more consistant range for abilities and talents. If a Ret MUST be in melee range for X,Y,and Z, and nearly in melee range for A, B, and C, it’s not really a ranged spec, either.
Seems to be some sort of scaling voodoo with pvp item level.
Now i’m not a ret main but this season I decided to roll with it because I had so much fun in season 1.
I always record my damage with recount and last season my highest hammer of light crit was 4.6 mil. Regular hits were about 2.2.
Now i’ve only done a handful of shuffles so far but my highest hammer of light crit is currently 2.1mil and regular hits are about 1.6
Nani? With a 40 item level increase and health pools going up by 50% this is clearly just some sort of numbers bug and will (Hopefully) be fixed in the next week or so.
Still cooking fools but yeah our pvp profile is screwed up. PVE is fine, PVP we’re doing less than last season.
can confirm ret is doing ZERO dmg currently
RET was S tier is season 1 man in all content
9372 US characters between 2k rating and 3.3k (repeating character for big PVP players included) in season 1 3v3.
421 of those were Ret, highest ranked one at 145th place.
The only other specs that have a lower highest ranking are Marksman Hunter and Survival hunter but that’s probably because BM is soo much better.
DH had 120 characters and still manage to place 3 characters higher or even with the first Ret.
First place in ranking was a Feral druid and Feral placed 17 characters above the first Ret…
Feral is an example of S tier.
Ret wasn’t…
Holy paladin was an S tier healer in PVP apparently, but not Ret.
Holy placed 24 character higher than the first Ret…
03/11 reset update
Paladin
Retribution
Blade of Justice damage increased by 25% in PvP combat.
Final Verdict damage increased by 10% in PvP combat.
Judgment damage increased by 20% in PvP combat.
Expurgation damage increased by 40% in PvP combat.
Feels good again last time I could play.
Definitely had a few hidden holes in our spell tree. It was brutal!
In regards to discussions above: There’s a reason the first meme guild name was ‘Buff Feral’!
I completely agree. Specifically in M+ for me. At the moment, I’m feeling pretty underwhelmed. Honestly, it feels like crap. We have occasional bursts, but aside from that, we’re nowhere near the damage output we had in Season 1. Classes like Shadow Priests, Hunters, Shamans (both DPS specs), and even tanks are consistently out bursting us from the go if major CD’s are not up. There is no sustained damage outside of major CD’s and single target is dead. Period. All our damage is AOE it feels like. If there’s no tuning done soon, I’ll probably just get KSM and call it a day for this season.
After now reading all the posts, it seems many are saying pvp is feeling like crap too. So… the spec as a whole, regardless of content, has taken a hit.
There appears to be dozens of undocumented over-nerfs and disturbances… Which is odd? Usually it’s the forums BSing everyone.
Paladin hits again for me, at least. Rogue on the other hand appears to have had a buff and it’s now unplayable. It’s just odd.
I don’t know, it seems inconsistent. It’s pretty weird
At the very least it’s working well again and in my opinion: overperforming, ironically. Lol.
Is it? That’s good haven’t tested
What’s the best PvP spec for Ret? Templar or Herald?
I prefer the burst over DoT, but if reading correctly Templar is bugged currently?
There are still a number of bugs for both Hero trees, but the buffs don’t hurt.