Where is this wave of diva tanks coming from?

[Kwashiorkor-ravenholdt]

They should just give the tanks an ability that stops players from moving in front of the tanks(can be turned on and off). People love having more buttons on their bars, right? When the tank is out of combat you have no line of sight when casting spells so you can’t pull or run ahead of them.

The more I think about it the more it really looks like a stupid solution to a problem that shouldn’t even exist in the first place lol.

If the content was harder then it goes the other way and far more pressure is added on the tank. People are only pulling because they either think the content is easy or that their time is precious. I personally don’t like harder content just for the sake of making it tedious(like a leveling dungeon).

At the end of the day tanking can be fun but when you’re doing it with a bunch of random people you’re never going to see again it’s going to be a chore at times.

[Zandalarthas-illidan]

@Kwashiorkor-ravenholdt

People are only pulling because they either think the content is easy or that their time is precious.

Or that the tank is going unnecessarily slow.

There’s no reason to go slow

[Thelion-kilrogg]

@Zandalarthas-illidan

I’m a tank my guy.

@Zandalarthas-illidan

I’ve been blood for two days.

This post is ridiculous.

[Zandalarthas-illidan]

Is blood not a tank spec?

Is me tanking content not a good enough criteria to be considered a tank?

[Gutshredda-zuljin]

You’ve been tanking for 3 days… sit down, clown.

[Adilith-barthilas]

@Frara-blood-furnace

Tanks are supposed to be the ones setting the pace and leading the group

FALSE. The group set the pace. Not the tank, not the healer, not the dps. Saying only 1 person is allowed to set the pace is just selfish on its own. Here is where the problem starts.

[Zandalarthas-illidan]

@Gutshredda-zuljin

You’ve been tanking for 3 days

Is the role of the tank to hold aggro on mobs or not?

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Zandalarthas-illidan

DPS sets the pace of runs.

They really don’t. They contribute to the pace, but they absolutely do not set it.

[Gutshredda-zuljin]

Is A role of the tank to hold aggro. Yes. It’s not the only role…
If you were a tank you’d know that. You aren’t. You are seeing how big of a flame fest you can get going before catching that vac.

[Zandalarthas-illidan]

@Gutshredda-zuljin

Is A role of the tank to hold aggro. Yes. It’s not the only role…

It kinda is though. Make mobs hit you, don’t die, follow appropriate mechanics

If a dps aggros a mob, take aggro from them and call it a day. Easy, simple, no fuss.

What’s the issue?

@Gutshredda-zuljin

You are seeing how big of a flame fest you can get going before catching that vac

I’ve done nothing close to ban worthy lol. You’re the one being hostile here.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Zandalarthas-illidan

Make mobs hit you, don’t die, follow appropriate mechanics

Determine the route best for your group, do as much damage as possible when relevant and use defensives when relevant. CC prio mobs when relevant.

You can boil anything down to be incredibly simple, it doesn’t actually help your argument.

[Zandalarthas-illidan]

@Snowpine-ghostlands

Determine the route best for your group

I’m not a theory crafter. People better than me and smarter than me find the best routes for me.

@Snowpine-ghostlands

do as much damage as possible when relevant

Secondary directive. Obviously doing as much DPS as possible is always good, it is not the primary responsibility of the tank.

@Snowpine-ghostlands

defensives when relevant

Primary directive that is already covered with stay alive

@Snowpine-ghostlands

CC prio mobs when relevant.

This is the job of all roles, but still technically a secondary directive.

Hold aggro for your party, stay alive. The bread and butter of tanking

[Tharand-illidan]

@Zandalarthas-illidan

My guys, tanking really isn’t that hard. If the DPS is shredding through stuff and pulling for you, pick up the mobs and pick up the pace.

My favorite role is tanking and I have a decent amount of experience in high keys. The absolute fastest way to kill a key bar none is to run ahead and pull stuff because your CDs are up.

If a DPS is intentionally doing this I’m not going to wait for it to wipe the group. I’m just going to leave or ask the lead to remove him and find someone else to do it 1 level lower.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Zandalarthas-illidan

People better than me and smarter than me find the best routes for me.

Do you keep track of those routes per week, and make sure it works for your party composition?

@Zandalarthas-illidan

Secondary directive.

I thought the tank’s job was to hold aggro? That would make this the primary directive, not the secondary.

@Zandalarthas-illidan

Primary directive

Everyone’s job is to stay alive.

@Zandalarthas-illidan

This is the job of all roles,

This doesn’t matter. Just because it’s a shared role does not mean it is not a role the tank fulfills.

You’re definitely trolling, but I’ll keep going as long as you’re entertaining.

[Sinelius-proudmoore]

DPS have pulled for tanks as far back as MMO goes…this mentality is fine honestly. If you pull it, you should tank it since you wanna gogogo yet don’t wanna play an actual tank.

[Thelion-kilrogg]

@Adilith-barthilas

Then why do we keep getting these complaints that dps/healers are pulling for tanks if the vast majority don’t want to go fast?

Maybe if you are DH - i haven’t faced this issue a prot warrior. Easy clap. But you go off.

Unstoppable Force

@Adilith-barthilas

I have certain goals I want to accomplish.

• belittling your fellow wow players and calling new players trash are not goals.

@Mke-kargath

“you pull it you tank it” are boomers

• Come lets que together - you pull it. I make sure you run back from grave yard. You will only have 2 options left. Either stop pulling or leave. Always works. Any key level.

@Zandalarthas-illidan

My role is to pick up mobs, regardless of who pulled them

Yes this is a good mentality to have for heroic mode tanks. Keep working on that skill.

@Zandalarthas-illidan

You don’t need to be an expert to see what the role of a tank is.

Clearly he gets it.

@Zandalarthas-illidan

Is the role of the tank to hold aggro on mobs or not?

His ignorance and lack of understanding of game mechanics is showing in this post.

@Frara-blood-furnace

Tanks are supposed to be the ones setting the pace and leading the group

THey dont want to hear that.

@Awkward-frostmourne

People have been complaining slow tanks and overeager DPS for literally over a decade.

@Zandalarthas-illidan

I’m a tank my guy.

@Zandalarthas-illidan

I’ve been blood for two days.

goes on to give us tips on tanking becuase ques are faster. he thinks we dont know.

@Battlemaster-stormrage

20+ key pushers

Must be hard to push a plus 20 on FOTM tank. Lets see in 4 weeks from now.

@Zandalarthas-illidan

Wrong, the pace is set by how fast the group can kill things,

@Zandalarthas-illidan

I’ve been blood for two days.

yes tell us more.

[Thelion-kilrogg]

@Zandalarthas-illidan

Is me tanking content

Describe content ?

[Zandalarthas-illidan]

Any content that requires a tank.

Or is that not really enough tanking for you?

My job js to hold aggro for my party. I’m not a leader, I’m not the sole voice of the group’s pace, I’m not anything more than a meat shield for my party. I take damage so they don’t.

That is the fundamental concept of tanking. Tell me I’m wrong.

[Gutshredda-zuljin]

@Thelion-kilrogg

belittling your fellow wow players and calling new players trash are not goals.

It could be… the OP seems to think it is lol.

@Thelion-kilrogg

Come lets que together - you pull it. I make sure you run back from grave yard.

Those were the days… the long run back to the dungeon from the graveyard. The run of shame! Lol.

@Thelion-kilrogg

yes tell us more.

But he knows… he is the second coming… this guy is less entertaining to watch squirm and wiggle and the Tulln and Talonel.

[Gutshredda-zuljin]

@Zandalarthas-illidan

Tell me I’m wrong.

You’re wrong.