New?
People have been complaining slow tanks and overeager DPS for literally over a decade.
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Right. Why stop if we don’t have to?
Tank players who act this way are almost universally terrible at tanking. Part of being a good tank player is learning how to set a pace appropriate for your group. If you can’t do that, you’ve failed one of the most basic fundamentals of the role.
Um but the dungeon has a timer? 
Not leveling/heroics dungeons…
Do people care about those though
This thread is a disaster because it’s trivial content players arguing with 20+ key pushers lol
The mentality going into a dungeon is going to be vastly different
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Tank and healer set the pace, with the tank making sure the healer is with them and has mana. If you turbo ahead of the group and die, don’t blame anyone but yourself.
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you answered your own question, if you want to tank queue up as the tank role, if you pull before tank dont complain when you get smoked by enemies you are not meant to tank, dungeons are not your own personal outdoor content and you have to respect the other roles in your group
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Wrong, the pace is set by how fast the group can kill things, not some arbitrary speed limit set by a power tripping tank.
So how are Tanks going to learn?
Getting yelled at by DPS …
Getting outpaced by DPS …
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If your dps are yelling at you to go faster, if they are pulling because you are going to slow, then speed up. Learn to play at a faster pace. You can’t baby people forever, at some point you have to jump into the deep end and actually try to get better.
or just dont be a dick to the tank you could try that lol
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why is it always a dps that is extremely judgmental of tanks? lol this is why there so few tanks yall are just giant jerks to them
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While there are some Diva tanks, and the “pull it you tank it” mentality isnt helpful. What you are saying is a bit disingenuous. I have been doing some PuG tanking recently, and its a mess. And I have bailed on several groups in +10ish keys. Im not ashamed to do so either.
The problem is when as a tank I am #1 or #2 on DPS and #1 on heals as well. Im doing 8k-10k DPS and two of the other DPS are doing 2.5k-3k DPS. Also the DPS and heals are not interrupting anything. And they are face-pulling or backpedaling into mobs. I wish I was exaggerating, but this is how PuGs are right now.
Heals are just as tough. I have been in groups where people are dying left and right, and not due to huge bursts. You just see their health chip down to nothing, and the healer is sitting at full mana, and just casting 1 or 2 heal spells over and over.
I also think a part of the issue is that a lot of people just dont know how to play their class. Maybe they are new. If they are coming back, they should have a general understanding of what to do. But it has been horrible lately. Example, a MM hunter with a 278i lvl, was doing 1.8k DPS in a +10 streets. They werent a carry or in the same guild as the rest of the group. By the second boss, they had cast Aimed Shot 6 times. In a different +10 the Preservation evoker only was casting living flame and emerald blossom. Thats it. Nothing else.
Im not crazy picky, and will stick it out if the group is trying. But when people are for all intents and purposes, not helping or trying to help, I will leave. You can complain about Diva tanks and what not, but the tank shortage is a real thing. And it is caused by several reasons. But one of the reasons is that PuGs expect tanks to carry the run.
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I main dps but I’ve played all 3 roles at a mythic +20 level. I’m judgmental of people who insist that players need to learn in a squishy, padded room where nothing can hurt them. You know how I learned how to tank SL M+? I jumped in and just started doing it. I pushed my limits, sometimes I failed but I learned from my mistakes.
If all I did was sit in heroics or +2s all day, I would never have gotten any better.
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It’s not being a dick, it’s a way to tell you that the DPS can handle more.
DPS sets the pace of runs. Why intentionally be a bottleneck?
As a tank, I only let people die if they’re intentionally going past me. In the Legacy of Tyr dungeon I was tanking the other day, I had an Evoker “healer” who was in DPS spec who ran ahead to pull the second boss (while I’m pulling 2-3 packs at a time without their healing). I let the boss kill him while I picked up adds off the others, and then grabbed the boss after he died. I will let those kinds of players die. However, if someone accidentally hits another pack and pulls it in, I’ll grab it. And yes, it is very easy to tell the difference.
Intentionally pulling: You spank it, you tank it.
Accidentally pulling: I gotchu, fam.
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This is a toxic mindset. There is no reason to let players die. Just pick up the mobs and move on instead of causing a problem
More toxic than claiming to be a healer while in DPS spec and providing no healing for anybody except yourself while running ahead to pull bosses? Because that’s what that Evoker I let die was doing.
I will give everyone benefit of the doubt once. After that, I’ll let the DPS tank it if they think they can handle it.
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If no one was dying then what’s the problem?