I wanted to play Burning Crusade Classic and just realized there isn’t one. I do not want to play Lich King yet.
WHy is there WoW Classic and Lich King Classic and no Burning Crusade Classic?
I want to be able to choose to play the version I want to at the time I want to. I want to go back and forth between games not be forced to play the latest one. I’d just rather stick to live then if your just going to remove old and replace with new.
There should be servers for each Clasic Expansion!
TBC Classic wasnt all that popular tbh. Regular Classic and then WoTLK Classic have been doing okay but TBC was just a filler expac while people were waiting to go to WoTLK.
everyone said TBC was just a waiting room for wrath, and they were right
and guess what? wrath is just a waiting room for fresh vanilla 
It’s in 2021.
This isn’t true at all.
TBC as a standalone expansion was rated 9.7 by PCGamer when it released
making it the 2nd best rated expansion EVER by PCGamer.
TBC was also known as “Vanilla 2.0” meaning it was the best part/most played part of the game EVER ,
after Vanilla OG.
TBC was never a filler, and it has a lot of content to offer just like wrath does.
People just have gold-rimmed glasses when it comes to wotlk (lore/story/gameplay), and it left tbc in the dust…
Yeah, but this isn’t 2007 anymore; it was factually less popular than both vanilla and wotlk this time around.
Vanilla wasn’t solely focused on endgame raiding while TBC and WotLK was the change to focus on endgame raiding. WotLK simply added a lot more features to that “playstyle” than TBC did.
What made TBC “feel” different back in 2007 was the fact that when TBC released a LARGE portion of the playerbase still hadn’t even reached level 60. So during this time the whole of Azeroth AND Outlands were populated.
TBC was built as an actual “expansion” and not designed as a separate game as most expansions are nowadays. The intent was to have both Azeroth and Outlands populated; however, due to min/maxing, speedrunning, and players focused on raiding and parses, at Classic TBC launch, Azeroth was all but abandoned. This simply made TBC and worse retail, as wotlk has turned out to be. Players simply logged on to raid.
If we really compare Vanilla, TBC, WotLK, and Retail, its surprising how active retail is in the world now.
Vanilla > Dragonflight > TBC = WotLK
TLDR: Due to the way players play the game now, TBC and WotLK are simply worse versions of retail for raidlogging parsers. WotLK has more for that playerbase than TBC did.
The most level headed response you can find in this forum. Also explains why everyone wants vanilla so bad.
They still could have just left 1 pve and 1 pvp TBC server.
TBC was my absolute favorite, both OG and classic re-release. Most people that were hype for wrath and said TBC was a waiting room for wotlk played TBC for a majority of the time it was live and quit wrath in <2 months
People didn’t know Blizz was going to butcher Wrath Classic.
I didn’t hate TBC. There were certain aspects that were fun like the relatively hard heroics early on, arena and Sunwell was a blast.
I enjoyed vanilla overall more though, for the world being alive as stated above, the server community, and world pvp.
Stop spreading lies. PC Gamer did not rate Classic that high. They only rated the original version that high. Classic TBC got a 75% rating at max which then dropped even lower after a while. I was talking about Classic TBC which is what people were playing here now. Was not talking about regular original TBC. Other ratings for the Classic version have it as 4 out of 10 saying the lack of advertising and lack of players caused it to do poorly compared to the original version.
Regular Classic and WoTLK Classic have both been far more popular. It wasnt that way last time. Last time around subs kept going up and up right until WoTLK ended.
It is also not standalone seeing as how you HAD to have the regular World of Warcraft 60 version installed just to install that and most of the lore from it also came from Warcraft 3 as well. It followed the stories of Illidan and the nagas.
It was not the most played ever as you said. It peaked at just over 7 million WoTLK peaked at just over 15 million.
For me TBC wasn’t bad per say, but was rather a shell of vanilla, a far superior game. Flying mounts really did ruin a lot of the social aspects of the game and world PVP. Giving both factions shamans and paladins took away the flavor and charm of the horde and alliance. The items/gear started to become much more homogenized and bland. 40 man raids became 25 man, which i personally didn’t like.
If you really want to play TBC, there are ways to play still which i cant say here. People like what they like and im all about that. I really feel bad for the TBC Andys, Blizz really did leave you guys with nothing. Good luck OP at finding another way to play.
I can agree with most of what you said.
The fact that the new player experience was left to the community was not a good idea by virtue of we had no good tools and still kinda dont even in retail.
Once you get to a certain ilevel in tbc or wrath even with heroic + its just kinda meh. Some heroic plus as a warrior tank takes a decent amount of effort and i cant use anything anymore.
Resigned to Hell, where it belongs. Next!
While i agree with you. Blizzard made a mistake by doing classic era servers which split the community up going into TBC.
If they would have continued the game originally the atmosphere through tbc probably would have been like the same atmosphere at original release because those that loved classic would have kept azeroth vibrant with alts
There were less than 200 people total on classic era across all servers during TBC. I remember a few YouTubers even visiting the servers and asking why people were still playing era at the time. The largest response was that people had ZERO clue that TBC was even a thing and were just ignorant to the progression of mmorpgs as a whole.
Everyone, for the most part, was VERY excited about TBC; however, when the normal wow culture set in many started to quit when finding nothing to do outside of parse culture.
In fact, the START of TBC was crazy hype, but as time went on it lost excitement as people realized they didn’t have much to do outside of wait for raid night or do arenas.
I think another thing that hurt TBC that, strictly in my OPINION as I have nothing to necessarily to cite, was the sheer amount of gold that was brought over by a “larger than normal” amount of the playerbase. GDKPs were also in full swing at this time.
While I don’t find GDKPs to be a bad thing in and of their selves, they are a large factor of bringing players OUT of the world when it comes to general gold farming. The problem with that is that TBC outside of raid content and arenas, doesn’t have any other content to really get into after the initial gearing period outside of various forms of world farming.
Obviously we can go into MANY, MANY factors as to why some of these expansions and games don’t have the same feel, and it is primarily due to how players consume content in the current time and culture. I don’t think Vanilla, TBC, and WotLK were even necessarily flawed in any sense, but they were designed for the culture of their times.
Unless there is DIRECT Blizzard interjection we simply won’t have ever have the “feel” of these older games, which brings in the whole argument of whether making large changes to the game to adapt to the culture is a good decision versus leaving the game in tact as it is and allowing the culture itself to slowly weed out those who don’t conform to the original game design itself.
Anyhow, thats enough of my rant about the concept of it all. I do think TBC was AMAZING back in 2007 because, as I mentioned in a previous post, it functioned as an actual “expansion” to Azeroth and simply made the game better (minus flying mounts 
).
If I had to guess, I’d guess that the significant drop in population and interest in Classic Era played a part, as well as the lack of any significant increase to overall Classic player population transistioning from WoW Classic through to TBC Classic.
Even with the marked increase in overall numbers that has come with Wrath Classic, I wouldn’t be surprised if Wrath Classic servers all upgrade to Cata Classic servers when the time comes.
Would Era have been and continue to be more popular had the approach to characters been different? Who knows?
I liked tbc more than I did wrath but tbh neither tbc nor wrath are anything compared to vanilla. Too BC atleast held onto some of the old school mmo feel but it’s just completely gone with wrath. Hopefully we get a fresh vanilla soon.
muh precious RDF