You can look at the history of the classic forum if those threads are still there or archived, there were a lot of those “back in my day” posts.
It’s almost like we didn’t have things like wowhead and youtube to teach us how to do everything and mega nerds hadn’t min maxed the fun out of the game.
But hey trolls gotta be trolls though rite?
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Are you sure this post you just made isn’t a troll?
Have you seen how old comments on wowhead are or how old some videos on Youtube actually are? Both things existed during the entirety of TBC…
I can’t say as I’ve seen a lot of people specifically name Kara but there’s been plenty of “TBC is when raids got real, you’ll see!” just as back when Classic was being made there was a lot of “Classic raids were much harder, you’ll see!” followed by “Well Molten Core and Blackwing Lair are easy because 1.12, but AQ and Naxx wont roll over. You’ll see!”.
Which even Sunwell is going to get steamrolled on day 1 by people who spent the last 15 years perfecting every last pixel of TBC.
At which point I imagine those people will start saying “WotLK hard modes wont go down so quickly, you’ll see!”.
There’s a group of people who seem to just not want to give up on the idea that raids were so much harder back in the day.
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I haven’t heard this at very much if at all. Nobody was saying this stuff would be hard. Will it be hardER than Classic? Sure. But not hard. At least not compared to Mythic raiding.
Well I actually raided during tbc and remember what it was like. No we didn’t have youtube with thousands of walkthroughs and wowhead was an item database at best.
Keep trying troll.
Wowhead was filled with all kinds of information back in 2007 besides just items yeah you must be trolling
Youtube and Warcraft movies were also filled with all kinds of information and informational videos the resources have always existed. Cope harder.
Here’s the thing.
I literally do not care what these people do.
They could clear every raid four seconds after it’s released and it would have absolutely zero impact on my gameplay experience. Frankly, I resent that I need to see people constantly talk about them as if they matter.
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Warcraft movies existed, and they were just glorified music videos of raiders. Nothing like today where you can hit the mix button on youtube and get 6 hours of “how to” guides.
Cope harder? Lol got any more zoomer twitter lingo buzz words Trolly McTrollerton?
the game is still difficult. It’s just up to the player base and how they want to play. You can play without guides, without the information. And the game will be challenging. So in that regard, people are right by saying TBC is hard.
You can’t say the game is easy, after figuring out everything about the game from someone else’s efforts.
You can say that people are ignorant if they believe people will struggle after looking everything up. But that doesn’t change difficulty level of the game.
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Exactly. I don’t know if you were around for Classic but when MC, BWL, AQ40 and Naxx got geared we had people coming in here immediately and making multiple (troll) threads. Every. Single. Time.
Of course these guilds/players who first cleared all the raids were very dedicated and all practiced a lot on private servers etc.
In the past much of it was Retail trolls without any relevant PVE achievement using how fast the very quickest guilds cleared the raids and then talking about how Retail is so much better because it’s harder. I won’t argue that Retail content is more challenging (although they are guilds that will clear much of that quickly too), especially since people go into it without knowing everything. I will say the constant threads about this type of thing get annoying though.
A small portion of the player base actually believes classic is harder than retail.
A small portion of the worlds population believe the earth is flat.
COINCIDENCE??? I THINK NOT!!!
The resources to figure out raid content was always there during TBC, next you’re gonna tell me things like DBM or threat meters or other kinds of advanced addons didn’t exist either right?
Just because you couldn’t find the information in 2007 doesn’t mean it wasn’t there, so yeah keep coping.
Sure but by this logic the modern game is hard too if you do the same thing.
Which is a point a lot of the “Classic was so much harder” people love to dispute.
Correct, the modern game is tough too. I wouldn’t say the difficulty of either game is lame or relaxed. It’s the player base that waters their own difficult down, then pounds their chest about how easy it is, or claiming something else was more difficult. It’s like saying a riddle is easy after googling the answer.
Great glad we agree that the info was there but not in the capacity that we have it today. Like I said we didn’t have 900 youtubers committed to putting out strategy guides back then.
This is all besides the point anyway considering the real reason people cleared all the raids in a day is due to it being old content. Shocking how something that has been run systematically on private servers for the past 10 or so years would get steamrolled.
Theres no cope here. Just calling out bland low effort trolls when I see them. Although I will give you a pity point because you did it on a boost shaman and not your retail clownshoes avatar.
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I think you’re vicariously living through the guild that managed to get to 70 and beat kara on the second day already…
Calling all tbc content a “joke” would imply you’re already 70 and have beaten it. It’s kinda funny to have an elitist attitude like this when you haven’t yet done it yourself, or maybe it’s a bit trolly 
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TBC had over 4x the playerbase of Classic, there were objectively more people seeking out this type of information and objectively more people putting out this type of information.
Why are you calling anyone a troll when you can’t even put together a coherent argument?
As much as I love WoW, arena play is something I never thought measured up to other arena type offerings. Plus EvE and DAOC spoiled me on the pvp front. Even DAOC BGs were superior and Blizzard only did enough to absorb other MMOs.
Not impressed with WoW arenas, and the tournament scene (outside Blizz self promotion for WoW) seems to agree.
There are at least 5x more people who come on here and say that Classic (TBCC or otherwise) isn’t as hard as Retail vs people who say that Classic is harder.
It would be nice for people to figure out that most people aren’t even claiming this. However, I’m sure that when the next raid tier is cleared we’ll get the exact same threads saying the exact same thing. It’s an easy thing to troll I guess.