I have been leveling my dk on classic going through a bunch of bc content and I came across a belf npc spouting off some dialogue about not shying away from demonic power and learning to master it. Why has this completely disappeared from modern blood elf society?
Fel is completely different from the void so I don’t think there would anywhere near the level of restrictions that void research would have and I don’t think it is a cosmic threat to the Sunwell.
Due to our history we potentially should have the most warlocks out of any of the races in the either faction. Where have all of our warlocks gone?
I wondered this as well! I’ve always thought it was super interesting how Thalassian elves differ so greatly in that they embrace using Fel and it’s not something that ostracizes them from society like with many other races.
Since the reignition of the Sunwell it seems like the storytelling has leaned more heavily on Light worship but it would be interesting to see how this plays a part with Thalassian Fel casters/researchers and their role in Quel’thalas now.
I was hoping they’d shed some light on it a bit when BE Demon Hunters were announced, but IIRC most of the opinion came from Kaldorei and not Sin’dorei perspective.
They went away when the writers developed their phobia of writing anything more unique in terms of fantasy elements. So now Blood Elves are just High Elves who likes red and sometimes have green eyes and sometimes have gold eyes.
They didn’t really have a significant presence in the blood elf narrative to begin with, it was all about their Blood Knights and Magisters and Farstriders. Ryathen the Somber in HFP is perhaps the only Horde-aligned blood elf NPC in the entire game who speaks frankly about fel, and I’m not even sure he’s a warlock.
People seem to continueally misinterpret Blood Elves’ relation to fel. The Blood Elves did not siphon/absorb fel, their relation to fel is not that deep. They used crystals in which they used to trap demonic souls to use it as energy sources for their experiments and buildings and the radiation that came from those crystals, eventually turned their eye-glow green.
While fel was more acceptable, and the use of demons to in the underbelly of Silvermoon City, it was not hailed and was indeed still hidden away from common sight. You may not have been ostracized, but it is clear people would still look at you funny.
The story of the Blood Elves did indeed revolve around their Blood Knights, Mages and Farstriders.
People also misinterpret the ‘Blood Mage’ description from WC3. It says that the Kirin’tor commonly associates fire magic with fel, not that fire magic is fel. It is just the power and destructiveness of fire that makes the association with fel, as opposed to the more controlled nature of water and ice spells.
Well, idk if it counts as Warlock lore more than Blood Elf lore, but the Lock Order Hall has Shinfel Blightsworn. I know it ain’t much, but it is something.
Now to be clear I don’t think the warlocks would overtake all of belf culture I just think their circumstances would have allowed a higher number of warlocks as opposed to your average culture or community.
Maybe they could have some sort of representation through a variation on Blood Mages.
That was prior to the restoration of the Sunwell. I think fel’s appeal became less broad and more specialized when other sources of magical energy became more widely available again.
Many became Void Elves. The edgier Blood Elves were being ostracized by the start of WoTLK remember that Velen cleansed the Sunwell at the end of BC and Liadrin promised to reform her people. That’s why current Blood Elves have access to blue/golden eyes as the fel corruption stopped and Blood Elves have since chosen Light/Arcane over Might through Shadow/Fel.
Those elves who still have a penchant towards the dark magics are more likely to be Ren’dorei then Sin’dorei.
Why would they shift to a completely different cosmic force? Starting over from scratch doesn’t make much sense instead of building on already acquired knowledge.
See it from the lore perspective of Liadrin and Lor’themar. The Blood Elves weren’t eager to embrace shadow and fel as quickly as it’s presented in BC. That’s why you had dissenters, people who felt this was dangerous and didn’t like the idea of siphoning Mu’uru dry. The elves who continued to embrace the riskier magics became slowly ostracized. By WoD you see paladins, priests and mages becoming more and more prominent. By Legion they were the main voice and by present while warlocks and shadow priests existed, their influence over Quel’Thelas lore wise has waned.
Many elves felt regret for what they did to the naaru and many wanted to embrace the newly revitalized Sunwell. Holy/Arcane was the magics used to rebirth their people’s fount of power. Not fel and darkness which nearly doomed them as a people.
See it as a Thalassian elf. Not as a player. Those who disagreed and continued to delve into shadow and chaotic magics were more likely to be ostracized than openly embraced as before during Warcraft 3-BC era.
One of the problems with the game is that Silvermoon is trapped in BC era and that hasn’t changed in 10+ years.
Because the new one is inextricably bound to the sacred heart of their culture, and the old one is a corruptive force that destroyed their prince and nearly damned their race?
Would you not classify the Dark Animus and blood magic as dark magic that would be considered morally ambiguous or risky? The Blood Elves seem to be a bit two faced with the pure magic of the sunwell while they don’t seem to have a problem with some dark messy taboo magics.
If Blood Elves don’t mind blood magic I think they would be more open minded to darker magics as long as it’s not a threat to their oh so precious sunwell.
It’s one of those questions of what can the Blood Elven leadership get away with. In MoP they felt they could use Blood Animus without much conflict, and they have. I think if anything it shows “selective bias” that Thalassians are known for. The Blood Elves are just well hypocrites by an outside observer, but they would argue, “We only use what we must!”
Funny enough this hypocrisy continues into Shadowlands. When you get your Darkfallen customization. They even mention that Blood Elves weren’t eager to embrace their undead kin and many found camaraderie with the undead of Undercity/Lordaeron.
The fact that some elected to join the Void Elves shows how ostracized these Darkfallen must of felt. While the Blood Elves used the Dark Animus with no problems. They still felt their undead kin should still be shunned or kept at arm’s length. I think it shows that Sin’dorei are culturally shifting into a purist society where the less than noble actions of their recent past and their kin who represents such magics are no longer embraced as openly as during the BC era.
Most of those blood elven warlocks were always relegated to dungeon and raid trash in tbc. Yeah, there was a lot of them, but they were never really on your side.
Seriously when the Sin’Dorei first joined the Horde I thought they were going to be our big wizard faction. The Forsaken were the only one with proper Mages before then but as a society they seem more about mad science, necromancy and shadow magic.
But it’s really focused on Blood Knights and Farstriders. Which are cool in their own right but for melee we already have Orcs and Tauren. And for archers we already had Shadow Hunters and Dark Rangers.
But some dudes with verdant spheres swirling around them engulfing the enemy in fire and conjuring great phoenixs? That we decidedly didn’t have.
But then they villain batted Kael’Thas in what remains a huge waste imo. As the guy’s personal history with characters like Jania and Sylvanas could’ve made for interesting interactions. And the warlocks and mages came up pretty sporadically ever since.
So much so the NBorne Elves are now the Horde’s resident magic specialists.
It sure would be nice to bring back Blood Mages. Funnily enough verdant spheres are probably the closest thing in the story that matches up to the mechanics of the warlock’s soul shard system.
Fans didn’t misinterpret anything it’s just typical Blizzard behaviour to explicitly state things and then completely retcon them. The crux of the Blood Elf storyline was their relationship to fel magic. Come TBC and the Blood Knights stole the show, because the Horde needed a Paladin race.
That’s how I RP’ed my Belf Lock. Destro Lock felt more Blood Magey than Fire Mage weirdly enough as that’s more of a sniper spec. Destro has more big explosions.
If only there was a glyph to replace the Infernal with a phoenix it’d be perfect.
