Where are the fury warriors and dh's

The website you linked to yourself shows that he is very, very wrong. The total 1800+ caster representation is 26.15% and the total melee representation is 45.82%. The difference is monstrous and I guarantee that the melee representation is being preferentially suppressed by how well they do in SoloQ, and how good they feel to play comparatively.

Casters are going to be much more likely to want a coordinated environment, but it doesn’t matter because WoW has been a melee-centric game for ages now. Melee get coddled like they have SCID while being the only child of rich parents. Casters should be absolutely annihilating the premade queue this season, but they aren’t because melee is just that much better and easier to play. A single outlier caster spec existing doesn’t change the general trend.

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Solo shuffle is the bracket for players who actually don’t know how to pvp.

I’m sorry man, it just is.

I got 2100 on an enhance with a staff.
A staff dude.
I couldn’t even use my melee attacks

Your shaman is level 68 though. How can you hit 2100?

Prepatch, and guess what?

Now there’s a guy who got 1800 in solo shuffle his first day of ever pvping, in this thread! Feel free to say hello

Also, he’s a caster. Go figure.

Prepatch…
pRePaTcH…?
Ok you’re done, you’re done.

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1800 solo shuffle player
first day of pvp
in this thread
how much more delusional can you be

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Dude people shouldn’t be dragged for having fun lol, why are you so salty someone hit 1800 for the first time?

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It’s a sentiment to either how unbalanced shadow priest is, or how braindead easy it is to get 1800 in solo shuffle.

Either way who cares? Shadow is strong yea, but solo shuffle is spec based anyways, so Shadow priest players will just have a much tougher time than other specs in solo shuffle to achiev high rating since they are all high rating. The same goes for DH and Fury at the moment.

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I only referenced SoloQ by saying that it is suppressing melee representation in premade 3s. The numbers I’m citing are from the check-pvp stats for premade 3v3. It’s one thing to be dense about the realities of SoloQ, but I wasn’t even talking about SoloQ directly.

Also literally no one believes this. Just saying.

How do you know it was his first day PvPing? People can have more than one account and there are people who have never been interested in having to find a premade PvP team and so just do other forms of PvP. A pure BG enthusiast for the last decade could easily have solid fundamentals if they cared enough to get better for its own sake.

I care because I like the game and want to see people to continue to play it

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People are playing it though? And in my opinion solo shuffle was a great addition to the game (minus the leavers and queue times). Yes shadow priest is strong, but so is about 10 other specs at the moment. Balance will happen in time, just have fun for now and don’t bash someone for getting 1800 for the first time…seriously that’s cringey af.

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Not if you shuffle with me on your team. Then you’ll get to breathe while I get choked.

I don’t care what you believe, I can link you clips of me killing streamers at 2200 if you want.

Because he has no other pvp achievements, and admitted it.

→ 2 hour solo shuffle q’s (which are going to get worse due to lack of healers, and healers feeling bad.)

→ healer friends not wanting to q arena due to shadow priests being completely over the top to deal with, with the dampening change.

→ arena friends stopping qing because all they face is shadow

→ battlegrounds stacking shadow priests and just globaling healers

This is correct in some ways, but it should only be relied on as a bonus safety net. Balance is still important to some degree because people aren’t going to have nearly as much fun playing a spec that gets dunked on every match, even if they’re the best at getting dunked on the least and so take the #1 spot on their spec ladder.

I would say that if premade and SoloQ representation are equal (or if premade is greater), they should balance more around premade and let SoloQ take advantage of its spec-centric rankings. However, if like 66%+ of rated arena players are playing SoloQ they should balance around it first. At that point it just doesn’t make any sense to allow the majority of rated players suffer lower quality games for the sake of the minority still playing premade.

I find shadow priests more glass cannon than demo lock/fury/DH. Yea they do a ton of damage, but they can die much easier than the classes listed above.

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This my first time using checkpvp, so correct me if Im wrong.

But the only time you’ll see shadow priest being strong is at 1800 in3v3 bracket, but either equal or doesn’t exist at other ratings and brackets. Is that right?

It’s all i q’d into in 2s, and it’s dominant in 3s

idk

1 sec lol

EDIT:

https://imgur.com/a/xAiluZT

Yea, glass cannons.

I had the opposite experience in 2s up to 1800, I queued mostly into DH/Fury/Demo lock.

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So wait, what exactly is the complaint then? That they’re strong or too many at the rating you were at? Because checkpvp shows them to be pretty balanced?

Correct me if I’m wrong though please.