I’m tired of always listening to Human characters when I signed up for a fantasy game where there weren’t any humans in everyday play.
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OK, great. I, too, would like the lesser-shown races to be brought up to prominence and given a good spotlight. The problem is Blizzard (and to a lesser extent, the playerbase) loathes the idea of putting a non-iconic race in the spotlight. If it’s not a Human, it’s an Elf. If it’s not an Elf, it’s an Orc. Things usually don’t go too much farther down the list than that because invariably an Orc/Elf/Human will swoop in and provide leadership.
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We barely ever even see an Orc.
Have you seen the Orc member of Dragonscale Expedition do anything, lately?
Had to check my calendar to make sure it wasn’t sunday yet.
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I mean, I have a genuine difficulty recalling when I’d been ordered to do anything in this expansion by someone that wasn’t a dragon. Maybe in the first area where you’re told to make nice with the other faction by your Exile’s Reach commander, but outside of that, it’s Centaurs and Dragons the whole way down.
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All the Dragonscale Expedition stuff has been with Elf Lady and Dwarf whatever.
Ironically, Dwarf leaders are actually rare to witness. Of course Horde’s is an Elf, though.
It was nice getting to work for a Pandaren for a spell, though. That was fun.
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Lol, like the Alliance is any better.
I mained Horde all the way up until BfA, been Alliance ever since because that expansion destroyed any Horde pride I had left. Was not a fan of their allied races as much as Alliance’s either.
Tyrande? Incompetent, went toe-to-toe with Nathanos in Darkshore while roided-up under Elune, couldn’t kill Sylvanas, couldn’t save Teldrassil.
Malfurion, lmao. “TY-RAN-DUH MY BELOVED!” (I know it was Xavius, but Malfurion was basically held hostage by an AVATAR in a 5-man dungeon, lol.) Also, the fact we had to trade him to get Ysera back later, so he’s back on the shelf.
Andiun is woefully similar to Baine, opposite-faction sympthathizer, seemingly whines a lot and is best friends with Sylvanas (and Baine) now. Imo he’s the Alliance equivalent to Baine, players don’t like him.
Greymane? Lol the man willingly turned a blind eye to the Worgen curse, during Cataclysm, the wall was made of cheap material, and throughout the years he’s still a bull-headed idiot. He crashed our gunship on the way to Stormheim due to wanting to chase the Horde/Sylvanas, even though it was advised against. His daughter and wife have had more development, and they are basically background characters- you see this during the Worgen Heritage quests.
Velen might as well have given the keys to the Exodar to Illidan, because Illidan carried him to Argus with the sargerite keystone. He even shattered his nightlight (Xera) and Velen just stood there. He was really good at ignoring everything until the last minute.
Mekkatorque, he’s okay. Nothing I can really complain about, as most of his incompetence was pre-WoW with Gnomeregan, and within WoW he’s pretty level-headed in dire situations. He was proven himself at the Battle for Dazar’alor and Mechagon.
That leaves Magni Bronzebeard and Moira. I didn’t like that Magni is neutral, but his new role makes sense as a neutral character, and now Moira is leader. Again, she’s pretty good, all three Dwarven tribes stand together under Ironforge, because of her.
Both factions have their issues.
Now imagine all of those problems, but you also have to play the heel.
In other words, go through this:
Except you don’t have to imagine it, you went through it, and it made you flip factions because of how bad it was.
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Teldrassil was actually what made me flip, well, and the mounts you got for doing both War Campaigns.
My first character was a Night Elf.
I just couldn’t bring myself to do it, never completed the Darkshore Warfront, just went to reroll Alliance as soon as it was an event.
That tree, along wity Coldridge Valley, are where I first started the game.
Destroying it was not an option I took kindly to.
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people being allowed to pick the races they want and still be able to play with friends? how terrible. I think cross faction gameplay is great.
I do agree storywise though, having absolutely zero rivalry between the factions now is kinda boring.
I don’t think the story needs to go back to all out war like MoP or BfA, but smaller skirmish storylines would be nice.
Lol if Thrall never listened to Medivh, the Horde never would have been created.
Same deal with Gul’dan listening to Medivh (Sargeras speaking throug him) and building the Dark Portal.
And then you have Garona, who was an Alliance spy.
Humans been talking to Orcs long before WoW.
Probably not gonna stop anytime soon, either.
And “traitor” races would have been fine, Dark Iron Dwarves & Defias Humans for Horde, Grimtotem Tauren and Royalist Toady Undead for Alliance, etc.
Which is what ‘allied races’ SHOULD have been.
I’d argue that until the end of BFA the faction cold war was still happening. WoD not too much, but like in Legion, half the Stormheim story was a faction battle. MoP started with a battle. I think we do need to return to themes of the faction war.
I was able to go through vanilla without an Alliance character walking me through it, every step of the way, every day.
And again in Burning Crusade.
And again in Wrath, although with the unfortunate exception of Mr. Fordring.
And then again in Cata.
Mists was a step back since we were following Anduin around. That’s when it started going south.
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Player housing confirmed.
“Every step of the way” is definitely an overstatement. You’re almost always with your respective faction, until now in DF, where things are truly neutral. And SL before it. BFA was super divided between faction.
Lol your ideas for allied races are literally just giving reskins to the opposite faction.
Horde faction identity has already been destroyed, because the pretty/cute races, it’s just Blood Elves and Vulpera friends, with the occasional Orc. And you’d want it to add Humans and Dark Iron to that? That’s just Red Alliance, moreso than it already is.
I think what we got was better. Dwarves used to all be under one banner anyway, before “The War of Three Hammers”. Moira still has her half-Bronzebeard, half-Thaurissan son.
Still upset we got Vulpera over Gilgoblins or Sethrak.
You must not have been around at the end, when Velen cured the Sunwell so the Blood Elves weren’t magic-addicts anymore, and both Draenei and Blood Elves lived on good terms for a while, thanks to him. Black Temple, we followed Maiev and Akama, both “Alliance” races. Akama is just a little fel-degenerated, lol.
I don’t consider Fordring to have ever been Alliance. The Argent Dawn has been neutral since Vanilla, and he’s the leader. Just because he’s human, doesn’t mean Alliance. By that logic, Gul’dan = Horde, as well as every neutral goblin port city from Vanilla.
What about all the quests Alliance had to do, with Thrall? Thrall was extremely prominent throughout the whole expansion, you can’t deny that lol. He’s there at the Maelstrom, he sends you to Deepholm, he’s there at Dragon Soul. He’s there before Firelands during his wedding with Aggra.
It’s never an even representation- you’re always gonna be taking directions from a race you don’t like.
I’m glad Vulpera haven’t had more of a spotlight, if I’m being honest. Vol’dun and the alpaca song was enough, and the Majordomo was enough.
This is all I have to say to this idiotic thread.
Maybe one more thing: I hope they will finally remove the archaic hive mind mentality for races and remove the racial division restriction in this game, so that all races can choose freely which side they want to join. So we aren’t forced anymore to choose a faction based of race of all things. 
Do you hear that? o.o OH NOOOOOO, THE SKY IS FALLING!!! xD
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Just because we have a common enemy does not mean we are allies.
Anyone else remember the dragon-lady telling us there will be no conflict on her island? She sucks at enforcing that.
I can put off faction conflict long enough for that Alliance civil war(or whatever) to happen, then the gloves come off.