Many of us are finishing, or have finished, the heroic grind and naxx10 is still rather easy. This means people are already less incentivized to run heroics and use the tool, chances are we all just forget about how bad it is and they don’t really need to implement it. It sure would have been nice to have the retail LFG tool though as its got a much better user experience.
RDF is NOT content - RDF is a feature/tool. Much like queueing from anywhere for battlegrounds. Much like the barbershop. Much like dual-spec. They’re all features, not content.
I believe it was designed to make the alt process easier… It wasn’t meant as the main tool to play and level the character. Players decided to do that themselves… Not an issue till the developers start to listen to a core group of players.
Those players convinced the Devs that this goes against the classic philosophy…
I didn’t invent the classic philosophy….
So don’t blame me for the Devs listening to another core group of players and choosing their take.
The reason behind it being implemented initially is irrelevant.
The reality is that we are operating on a patch that would have come AFTER 3.3, and thus, we should have RDF implemented, because, again, it’s not content, it’s a feature/tool.
There is no “Classic feel,” or “Classic philosophy” - I’m not sure why some think it exists.
There was no RDF survey presented for Lich King, there was no thread on the forums about it prior to them removing it. So, where did they receive that feedback from?
Not you…
Another core group of players… Perhaps the MVPs with gold font?
So, you have no actual, legitimate argument here, do you?
There are a grand total of zero threads on the Community Council forums regarding RDF prior to April 19.
They may receive special emails and surveys? I said I “believe”. I didn’t say it was a fact it was a feeling. Based on logic, that clearly we part ways on. I didn’t come here to flame you personally but I can tell with your quotes you have set your sights on me.
So I’ll bite…
No, they don’t.
What logic or fact have you presented?
I replied to you because of this…
RDF is NOT content.
How would you know? You have no access to their emails or Blizzards practices?
They do however mention in passing in blue notes that they agree with players… so by that claim I assume the ones they listen to.
Well, for one, there are Community Council members upset about this, and have been vocal about no communication regarding it. Secondly, why would any member NOT put an end to this argument by saying that there was, in fact, a survey sent out to them? Do you really believe those surveys wouldn’t get leaked to Google?
I may not have access to their emails, but really, in this day and age, I don’t need it.
Blizzard’s practices… I’m pretty sure we all know how they operate.
They started by saying it was because of the social aspect; they have since gone against that and said it’s because they don’t want us to level too quickly.
Removing RDF, and thus reducing the players in the lower-level ranges, contradicts their first Design Pillar.
Let’s say they DID send out special surveys to Community Council members… how many members are there? Very likely to be less than 20, and that’s somehow a good enough measurement of what the rest of us want? Something doesn’t add up here.
Ok… fair point.
The point of my original statement stands true still. If they add in RDF they add in a “feature/tool” that was not originally introduced at the time in OG. Maybe that hurts the game? Maybe it helps it? The Developers by the act alone of not including means in a gold standard of here or not here that they didn’t think it should be. Or the feature would be here already like the other “some changes”.
There have been 10,000 posts a day about the subject so they are not daft to it either… How many players wrote a ticket regarding this? I bet many… So they know we want it but don’t agree that it should be in the game.
“I believe” it’s because they think it skips the content too easy…
- BG queues were added early
- Dual-spec was added early
- Access to Death Knights was early
Actually, according to Brian, even the team is split - some want it, some don’t.
Sorry, but this belief is debunked within seconds because a boost is easier to level with than RDF, yet it’s still in the game.
Ahh but not a relevant boost. You don’t boost to 80 in wrath and you didn’t boost to 70 in TBC…
You’re SKIPPING the majority of the game’s content.
And, actually, you DID boost to 70 during TBCC.
But the relevant stuff… skip the old.
58 when it’s released
Technically, you ARE skipping some of the current content since Northrend is 68-80.
During pre-patch, when the boost went live, you boosted to 70. Thus, you boosted to 70 during TBCC.
That wasn’t a relevant time
Of course it was - TBCC content was still current, and it was relevant.
Everything was in final nerf free loot stage… irrelevant and if they hand out RDF in final wrath phases they would have achieved the same…
I find your attempt to win this argument amusing…. However my mind remains unchanged.
We’re not talking difficulty - it is fact that Pre-Patch was released during TBCC’s lifetime; people were still running dungeons, heroics, and raids. Blizzard started to sell a boost, which skipped 90% of the game’s content, and allowed people to jump right into raids.
No, because RDF doesn’t allow you to skip ANYTHING.
“Attempt” would imply that I haven’t already ‘won’.