Even blizzard forgot it existed when asked. Plot said no transdimrnsional starship with orbital cannon for you. And malf /tyrande gotta be wimps that don’t know their own lands.
Despite thier cannon age and power. Heck tyrande goes ssj 3 and malf actually shows he can be terrafying and go ssj4. But they are still useless against the developers self insert nath.
I think Blizzard knows that the Draenei could have decimated Sylvanas and her attempt to attack the tree, especially the Lightforged Draenei. Just imagine a flying ship shooting beams and killing all these Horde with those mud hut living losers not being able to do anything about it. Mind you, the ship can travel very fast and portal to different areas as well as having power shields. It would be unfair, amazing and hilarious, but unfair. So instead of admitting this, Blizzard decides to ignore this fact entirely.
Shoulda been the terror of darkshore cinematic on a massive scale. Otbitwl cannons and moonbeams spam from the sky.
The second the ground troops touch darkshore instantly the very ground, every tree, leaf, and animal should have swarmed and ripped apart the horde as those trying to run get sucked into the ground to be crushed.
And saurfang going around the wisp wall should have failed. As the horde are walking through the tunnels when the very earth and roots block them in collapse and they all get to suffocate together.
Or the Burning Legion, or Ragnaros & Fandral from the Firelands. You’re telling me the Horde is more powerful and dangerous than all of them?
The tree burned so easy it’s a wonder a stray lightning bolt or basic campfire didn’t set it ablaze years ago.
Good lord.
My point:
Your head:
Point is that it was a surprise attack. And those are difficult to react to. Plus they were expecting a seige which they probably thought they could survive until reinforcements showed.
Someone may want to relay that to Blizzard, then, because their own story made it clear that burning Teldrassil was a contingency Sylvanas cooked on the spot because Sarufang failed to finish off Malfurion. An occupation was never going to work, and the Horde was too far involved in the war to tuck tail and throw themselves on the mercy of the Alliance- their goals were the literal opposite of that- so since the Horde’s explicit goal- killing Malfurion to completely demoralize the Night Elves after a successful campaign, thus sending the clear message that Anduin can’t protect them- had failed, the Horde now needed something of equal value.
That something ended up being the destruction of Teldrassil.
Then again given how most people didn’t read A Good War I wouldn’t be shocked to discover Blizzard hadn’t either.
You don’t seem to get it.
You made multiple points.
Point 1: That Sylvanas burning the tree was not her original intent and that came later.
Point 2: That the Draenei could not provide support immediately because of the surprise nature of the attack.
I am not contesting Point 2.
he was busy with the docks in darkshore…
Actually the reason the Exodar crashed was because Blood Elves sabotaged it in flight. It’s why there are Blood Elf enemies on both Azuremyst and Bloodmyst Isles.
Considering they’re the ones who told us that Sylvanas intended on burning the tree in the first place? I don’t think they do. It was never about Saurfang not killing Malfurion. She was always going to burn the tree, which is why she brought catapults to the shore line.
If she was going to occupy the tree, she would not need catapults on the shoreline to ensure that.
exodar wasent next door, they all flew away in legion to argus.
Exodar should just be a big hole where the ship was.
Honestly I’ve always gotten the vibe that the normal Draenei led by Velen, whilst on the Alliance, would rather be neutral in war settings. At least since legion. The majority if not all of the Draenei in the war effort are Lightforged are they not? I could be wrong. I just see Velen as someone who would assist in healing a tortured nation but not assisting in the war.
You say this but, again, A Good War clearly states that Sylvanas didn’t have the idea until after she learned Tyrande rescued Malfurion.
Sylvanas was just trying to get rid of a hippy infestation that had festered for far too long.
Her intention was to burn the tree, but that would have come later, after the Alliance had lashed out in desperation. A Good War actually alludes to this with one particular line after Sylvanas learns that Malfurion survived. I’ll quote the entire passage and bold the important bit.
This battle was not about a piece of land. Even Saurfang knew that. Taking the World Tree was a way to inflict a wound that could never heal. Losing their homes and their leaders would have ended the kaldorei as a nation, if not a people. Even the loss of one leader would have been enough to create a tide of despair. The wounds of this battle would have bled, festered, decayed, and rotted the Alliance from the inside out. Anduin Wrynn would have lashed out in a final, desperate war, looking for a miracle, because only a miracle would save them.
But a miracle already had. A miracle granted by the honorable hand of a foolish old orc.
And an overconfident warchief. Best to lay blame where it belonged. This was her mistake as much as Saurfang’s.
This conquest of Darnassus would rattle the kaldorei people. They would grieve for their lost, fear for their imprisoned, and tremble at the thought of the Horde ransacking their homes. But they would not fall to despair. Not anymore. Malfurion’s impossible survival would give them hope. Their wound would heal.
Even in this dark hour , they would say, Elune still watches over us.
And that was almost certainly true, wasn’t it? Elune had intervened. Perhaps she had even stayed Saurfang’s killing blow. And she wouldn’t be the only force beyond the Alliance to oppose Sylvanas’s true objective.
Her true objective. To feed the Jailer souls. She would have used the conquest of Darnassus as the starting point, then after the Alliance had rashly engaged her forces, she would have executed the Night Elves and set the tree alight. That was always the plan.
But after Saurfang failed, she realized that she had to change those plans. Now she couldn’t rely on the Night Elves to collapse into despair, so rather than burn the tree later, she shifted her plans around and burned the tree first.
You don’t actually know what Sylvanas really intended to do. I for one choose to believe that Blizzard hasn’t forgotten elementary writing elements like narrative consistency- Sylvanas is Machiavellian, not stupid- and instead that this all leads to something other than, “herpa derpa derp how do I kill as many people while sitting on an engineered plague?”
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You understand that Blizzard has told people what her objective there was right? Her true objective was to feed the Jailer souls, they’ve literally said that was her true goal, and burning the tree was part of that goal.
We did not know that was her true objective when we read ‘A Good War’ or played through the War of Thorns storyline in-game, but we know it now.
Blizzard only remembers the Draenei exist when it’s convenient.
Same reason our literal orbital laser-equipped spaceship didn’t help.
Alternatively, players whine and cry like babies whenever the Draenei are brought up because MUH MEDIEVAL FANTASY so much Bizzard decided they could take a backseat for a while.
How the heck do you SURPRISE anyone - especially night elves - with a massive army hauling big, slow siege engines through dense forest?
Literally the only way the Horde surprised anyone was because the writers plopped us at the locations they wanted to attack.
I still prefer my version of things where characters aren’t beholden to plot convenience, don’t behave like idiots when the plot demands, and actively seek death because they truly wish nothing more than to be free from the mortal coil in the hell that is being trapped in a Blizzard Plot.